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    I know that the float height effects mixture, but I'm beginning to think it only effects the idle mix except when it's so low it runs out on the top end. After I got the cam timing set I was experiencing VERY lean conditions. Syncronizing and raising the float made the idle OK, but excelleration in the bottom end was misfiring and crapping on the top end and VERY lean. Lowered the clip on the needles and top end and midrange is OK, but now idle is WAY too rich. It appears that needle position effects idle mix too. I wonder if lowering the float will help lean out the idle mix?
    You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

    '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
    Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
    Drilled airbox
    Tkat fork brace
    Hardly mufflers
    late model carbs
    Newer style fuses
    Oil pressure guage
    Custom security system
    Stainless braid brake lines

  • #2
    I'd go back to your original clip setting and go up a step or two(one step=2.5) in the mains. You want a happy medium of mileage and performance. My 81 Venturer loved 115mains for response and performance gains, but mileage suffered and plugs had a 'dusting' of black, so running 110's which is stock for sea level(go figure at 5,000ft.), but float levels are lowered at 25mm. Don't know what year you have but it's all realative to cause and effect, same difference.
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    • #3
      I would do what he said. Set float height as per manual. Adjust mixture by the jets
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      • #4
        Why????

        I don't understand what could make it so far from stock set-up. Stock airbox & filter, stock pipes and mufflers??????? My question was, "Does float height effect only the idle mix, or does it effect both idle and high speed mixture?"
        You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

        '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
        Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
        Drilled airbox
        Tkat fork brace
        Hardly mufflers
        late model carbs
        Newer style fuses
        Oil pressure guage
        Custom security system
        Stainless braid brake lines

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        • #5
          Re: Why????

          Originally posted by planedick
          I don't understand what could make it so far from stock set-up. Stock airbox & filter, stock pipes and mufflers??????? My question was, "Does float height effect only the idle mix, or does it effect both idle and high speed mixture?"
          try this richard

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          • #6
            Sounds like your trying to adjust the carbs to solve a problem that could be something else.

            All cylinders firing??
            (can do the sizzle test on headers to see if all firing near the same)
            Have you checked to be sure there are no vacuum leaks?
            Carb boots sealing good on head, rubber seals good on throttle shaft, diaphragms, vacuum lines and the two plugs good? Vents clear?

            78E float height 24.7 to 26.7 mm (25mm works)

            When I get to a point of frustration, generally start over with the basics. Could be something that was taken for granted as good is not.


            mro
            btw, read a post last year where a guy had lost a socket, which had wound up in the inlet for filter box. Kinda like having a full time choke on

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            • #7
              Float height

              I have an infrared heat gun so I can check the pipes at idle for heat eveness. I think it's better than the water splash. New spark plugs. One thing for sure, I have become an expert at getting those carbs off and on. Changing needle clip positions is really easy without taking the carbs off.
              You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

              '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
              Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
              Drilled airbox
              Tkat fork brace
              Hardly mufflers
              late model carbs
              Newer style fuses
              Oil pressure guage
              Custom security system
              Stainless braid brake lines

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              • #8
                Thanks

                A thank you to Mason, very good information. Looks like you have spent more time doing searches than I have. Interesting that page has no information about who or where they are. Sure wish I had a dyno here, putting the tank and seat and all the other stuff on just to do a quick test is time consuming.
                You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

                '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
                Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
                Drilled airbox
                Tkat fork brace
                Hardly mufflers
                late model carbs
                Newer style fuses
                Oil pressure guage
                Custom security system
                Stainless braid brake lines

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