my xs1100 got beat

[MAXIMAN]

Originally posted by pggg
Cafe if your XS isn't near redline in 4th crossing the line, then there's something wrong

Precisely.

[caferacer]

do you think im holding it in 1,2,3 gears to long, and how high should i take it befor the shift in 1,2,3???

[pggg]

Dunno, but the experienced dragster Chev says he rings his XJ to the max, 10,000 revs when he's racing it, but he's still crossing the line in 4th...

[knewsom]

who knows? maybe his bike as a 750 final drive....

[xschop]

What a Drag

I just went for a run and If I were drag racing with this final drive, My best bet would be to wind out in 1st gear and shift to third, The xs11's torque wants to willy my bike in third at this RPM....

[xs650mike]

You sure have a pretty bike there!

Oh the shame, beaten by a Honda 1000 shaftie! The XS11 is really hard to launch off the line quickly, a traditional dragstrip start doesn't seem to work for me, try clutching it off and redline it in each gear. Don't use the clutch when you shift, it's much quicker without. knewsom's suggestion about a Special 16" rear wheel makes sense too.

The darn things are pretty hard to tune for an aftermarket exhaust. I'm keeping mine stock though the muffs have rusted off the collectors. A lot of muffler tape, high-temp RTV and hose clamps have restored the stock sound and performance. Just waxed a Big Dog chopper in a top gear roll-on from 55-80, at least I think he was in top gear.

[Dan Hodges]

XS 1100 vs CB 1000

The Honda CB 1000 (actually a 975 cc) was a great highway motorcycle with a very high top gear in it's high range,got 35 miles per gallon on the Interstate cruising at 85mph,had a 4.5 gallon tank and was rated by Honda at 89 horsepower. My very dear friend Mike Lee had a beautiful one and during the early and mid eighties we travelled all over the southwest and the state of Colorado and to say my 81 1100 Special would spank it is an understatement and I out weighed him by 50 pounds.From a 20 mph roll in first gear,a 50 mile mph go in 4th gear or what ever it simply was no contest.When he had the transmission in low range it was geared much lower than the XS and in high range it was geared much higher but it really didn't matter because when I raised my left arm to go it was adios amigo, see you later alligator, good night and good luck.We both had identical Plexistar II windshields and out in the middle of west Kansas at wot I would get so far ahead of him I could'nt see him anymore.Mike still has the bike and is in the process of putting CB 1100 F cases on it which are actually only 1063 cc with 2 mm over Wiseco pistons and a set of 1100 F cams but it will be all for naught as Attila just received a new set of 1179 Wiseco's in the mail along with a new set of of killer cam's and so it simply was not meant to be for the big CB to ever show it's tail light to the big black stallion named Attila. The two of us have matching black V-Maxes though and other than some cosmetic stuff have pretty much left them alone.I say pretty much because I have put a Dyno-Tec ignition set up on mine that allows me to advance my timing which you cannot do on a stock Max, but I would still say it is stock more or less.The Honda CB 1100 F though was a runner and was bad to the bone for it's day.

[caferacer]

thanks for all the help i will try red line and see what happens when i leve the line i cant keep the front on the ground

[Dan Hodges]

Drag Racing

Originally posted by caferacer
thanks for all the help i will try red line and see what happens when i leve the line i cant keep the front on the ground

You do not leave the starting line at red line(8500 rpm) for an Eleven in a drag race.You do not leave the starting line at red line in a car either for that matter.Dale Walker has a very good web site that talks about the fundementals of drag racing a motorcycle,check it out as it's very informative.You live in Effingham Illinois,not far from the Gateway race track in Madison Illinois (St.LOUIS).You should go there on the night they have bracket racing for bikes,hang out around the starting line and check out how the successful guys are launching theirs.You can also find a deserted black top road with no traffic and practice launching it and running it through 1st gear and shifting to second and if all is right, shut it down because after that it's simply a matter of laying down on the tank and hitting your shift points at the correct rpm.Be forewarned,a high mileage Eleven with a stock clutch will not tolerate many all out launches from a dead stop before the clutch plates go south.Before you do any of this you will need a set of new rear shocks that are adjustable for both extension and compression and for drag racing a shaft drive bike you need to set them stiff on extension to cut down on the rise in the rear end which is common in all shaft drive bikes with some having more problems with it than others.When you launch a bike with shaft drive the ring gear tries to climb the pinion gear and subsquently the rear of the bike rises sometimes violently and when the shock suddenly comes to the end of it's travel the rear tire is unloaded and wheel spin is induced.Cars suffer the same problem depending on what type of rear suspension they use,i.e.,leaf springs with slapper bars,ladder bars,3 links and four links the latter being generally the best choice because of it's inherent adjustability but correctly designed ladder bars can be made to work well to.Go to the races,watch the cool guys and ask lots of questions,it's the only way to learn.Good luck in your endeavors.Dan

[MAXIMAN]

Originally posted by xs650mike
Just waxed a Big Dog chopper in a top gear roll-on from 55-80, at least I think he was in top gear.

THAT ROX!!!

I love it when a 25 year old machine dusts a V-Twin.

[MAXIMAN]

Re: XS 1100 vs CB 1000

Originally posted by Dan Hodges
The Honda CB 1000 (actually a 975 cc) was a great highway motorcycle with a very high top gear in it's high range,got 35 miles per gallon on the Interstate cruising at 85mph,had a 4.5 gallon tank and was rated by Honda at 89 horsepower. My very dear friend Mike Lee had a beautiful one and during the early and mid eighties we travelled all over the southwest and the state of Colorado and to say my 81 1100 Special would spank it is an understatement and I out weighed him by 50 pounds.From a 20 mph roll in first gear,a 50 mile mph go in 4th gear or what ever it simply was no contest.When he had the transmission in low range it was geared much lower than the XS and in high range it was geared much higher but it really didn't matter because when I raised my left arm to go it was adios amigo, see you later alligator, good night and good luck.We both had identical Plexistar II windshields and out in the middle of west Kansas at wot I would get so far ahead of him I could'nt see him anymore.Mike still has the bike and is in the process of putting CB 1100 F cases on it which are actually only 1063 cc with 2 mm over Wiseco pistons and a set of 1100 F cams but it will be all for naught as Attila just received a new set of 1179 Wiseco's in the mail along with a new set of of killer cam's and so it simply was not meant to be for the big CB to ever show it's tail light to the big black stallion named Attila. The two of us have matching black V-Maxes though and other than some cosmetic stuff have pretty much left them alone.I say pretty much because I have put a Dyno-Tec ignition set up on mine that allows me to advance my timing which you cannot do on a stock Max, but I would still say it is stock more or less.The Honda CB 1100 F though was a runner and was bad to the bone for it's day.

I love hearing these stories. Dan should write a book titled:

XSive XSperience

[Dragon Tamer]

I won't pretend to know what the problem is but all I can tell you is that the
Fire Dragon will eat a cb1000 Honda alive and spit it out still smokin'. As far as I know she is all stock and carries a fairing and bags and I ain't seen much on the road that will stay with her. You are right about the V-max's, lotta power but I don't have much trouble with them, they stay with me until about third gear and then it is "goodbye"

[Dan Hodges]

Originally posted by Dragon Tamer
I won't pretend to know what the problem is but all I can tell you is that the
Fire Dragon will eat a cb1000 Honda alive and spit it out still smokin'. As far as I know she is all stock and carries a fairing and bags and I ain't seen much on the road that will stay with her. You are right about the V-max's, lotta power but I don't have much trouble with them, they stay with me until about third gear and then it is "goodbye"

I am not sure what you mean when you say you do not know what the problem is as I didn't realize there was one. I was only elaborating on how much faster an XS 1100 was compared to a like new Honda CB 1000 Custom.I bought my 81 Special brand new and have also owned several others since. A stock XS is not as quick as a new red Kawasaki 900 Ninja,an 1100 Yamaha FJ,a V-65 Honda Sabre and it is certainly not in the same league as my mighty black Max.I still have my beloved Special and it is much faster now than it was stock,but it's still no match for a good stock V-Max.Of course the V-Max is just a cruiser by today's standards and there are lot's of bikes today more evil than it is. The XS is my all time favorite though as evidenced by the fact it still occupies a prominent space in my garage.I hear tales of a big cubic inch fully dressed Eleven named Zilla that's making almost a hundred horsepower and that it rooms the badlands of Oklahoma stamping out flaming fire breathing dragons.Be most cautious as you proceed by Stillwater as you would not want to wake up Zilla and have him extinquish the fire in your dragon.

[knewsom]

heh, that makes me wonder if my baboon would run faster if it were being CHASED by a dragon...

[chevy45412001]

only prob is

i still have to leave the line like a grandma going to church. I can;t get my scoot to take off wellbest to date for me is 13.10 at 102 mph. thats with like a 2 second 60 foot time,imagine if i can knock that down to 1 sec or less,would put me solid into the 12's.