Bad smoke

[Crazcnuk]

Tad, that is what I will do. The only thing that worries me is how bad it smoked, but I am hoping, before I bent the valves, that all that was wrong were some stuck rings.

Underdog, From what I understand the '82 XJ1100 head will work, but others here will probably confirm if that's true. I don't know if the YICS makes any difference or not.

I have all the cams and other parts on mine now, All I need is the head with the valves in it. I may actually only need the valves to redo my head, but it's cheaper just to buy a used head w/ the valves already in it.

I have been reading about the variations of cam/head that can be made and would be interested in using the 78/79 cams on an 80-82 head, for the performance, but then I would need the older cam set.

[GNEPIG]

.. it could have been smoking if the valve seals are bad, but mostly on decelaration or it could have been as easy as having to much oil in the crank case or gas/oil, these would be seen as white smoke. it could also be smokin if the vacuum diaphram in your fuel valve is leaking and getting sucked striaght into your manifold, this would look like black smoke. not dis'in your diagnosis, just throwin out some other causes.
.. the 82 XJ head will work but you will have to do something with the YICS ports, i dont know what, i have not tried this before.
PM Trbig, he has done this to his bike, he would be happy to help.

[Crazcnuk]

It was blowing smoke mostly on acceleration, kindo f brownish at idle to start, but very blue as it went along. . never got it goig fast enough to have to decelarate hard. I got a whole 2.3K. It slowly lost power as it couldn't burn the oil out fast enough. Once I pulled it over it stopped and wouldn't start. Once we got it home and put a charger on it, it started right up again. The plugs were pretty badly fouled, cleaned them up, and around now is when the valves got screwed up.

[Crazcnuk]

Apparently the YICS has nothing to do with the head itself, so that one off the XJ1100 should work fine.

[caferacer]

sorry about the head troubels i jumped time and lucky for me it did not hurt the valves i baught a used running bike for parts it is a 1980 xs1100 h it runs and dos not smoke but that is it the rest off the bike is crap or scrap take your pick i will sale you the head cheep it dos have a broke header bolt it is still got threds on it i will also throw in the extra shims and buckits i have hell i even have a set off 2/over rings i think if you git her runing you will love it i cant live without mine it is a monster

[Crazcnuk]

Well, I can certainly use the head. I need to borrow a chainbreaker tool and take the top end off to find out what else I may need down below.

I am used to cars, where if the bore is worn we just bore it out and put in oversize pistons and rings. I assume that when they talk about 1st over, 2nd over rings, they are just changing the rings?

Was reading on the 'Big Bore' kits as well, where you get oversize pistons, head gasket, etc. I assume that the stock barrels can be bored out that far?

[caferacer]

for 50.00 plus shiping usually 20.00 fed ex i sale you the head and the rings and i beleve i have extra springs to send and the cams are in great shape i have another set for back up and i need to git it out off my shop you will git the complete head .. i rebuilt my head last year i did rings just for the hell of it i was there eney way 2 cylanders used 2 over and 2 used standerd i will throw them in just in case let me know

[Crazcnuk]

Sounds good to me.

I can pay you through Paypal, if you like.

My address here is:

Keith Inscho
#58, 145 East River Road
Hinton, AB
T7V 1S4

Send me the info where to send payment. I usually find Fed Ex a tad pricey. USPS works for me just as well. Whatever is convenient and cheap!

[caferacer]

i will call around tomarrow and git a shiping price and i will email you the total cost for head and shiping i will git the cheepest price for you when you pay threw pay pal use my email address and pic services moran102072@hotmail.com

[caferacer]

ok crazcnuk this is what i have for shiping....... fedex 46.00 u.s.d 5 days shipping///u.s.p.s 35.00 5 to 6 weeks shipping/////ups 51.50 standerd shipping 2weeks so fed ex is best price and fast shipping so if you whant to go fedex it will be 96.00 total you can use pay pal and use my email addres for my acount (moran102072@hotmail.com) it will ask what it is for pick sevices..... i will have it sent off as soon as i git you payment let me know what you whant to do o ya send me your email address

[Crazcnuk]

Ok, sent via Paypal.

Shipping address is
Keith Inscho
#58 145 east River Rd.
(Parklane Mobile Estates)
Hinton, AB
T7V 1S4

Just make sure to put a low value on it
for customs!

[prometheus578]

"Put that in yer pipe and smoke it!"

Bought an "E" last January. Trailered it to the shop, got it to run briefly(knowing it would need further work), shut it down and forgot about it. (Dumped a concoction of oils in the plugholes to loosen the rings a bit just in case... sat fer 6 years)
So here it is, eight months later, and I'm trying to get it road worthy. Cleaned and redid everything that is doable. Fired it up... starts to smoke!
"What the hey, Gomer?"
No problem, plenty of time... dumped some stuff down the plug holes and let it sit fer a day.
Put a fan blowin' on the engine and ran the hell out of it. Smoked like an old Marlborough.
"Bah! Deal with it later.
Next day, had a little puddle of crud under the bike, where the muffler meets the header pipe.
"Well duh!" All the stuff I'd poured into the cylinders over the months had to go somewhere. Engine doesn't smoke at all... hot exhaust is just burning all the oil coatin' the pipes! And since the headers dip below the frame, and then swoop up to drip from the the muffler joint, I've probably got a nice little puddle of stuff that I'll have to remove the pipes to pour out.
Common sense would have told me that, but late at night, I get a little loopy.

[Crazcnuk]

It's that immediate sense of 'panic'. Throws all common sense out the window. It's the same reflex that, once the kid has hit the starter and the motor tunred 1/4 turn before it stopped, makes you KEEP hitting the starter cause you can't figure out why the motor just 'seized'!


"it can't be seized, it turned over a minute ago...."

[Crazcnuk]

Just waiting for the cylinder head and related stuff to arrive. Picked up a used set of 4 into 2 pipes.

Ordered a Cam chain, and a gasket set as well as a Manual.

Unfortunately, it's SNOWING here today! Couple of inches already.

Noticed that the breather on the rear diff is not right. It looks like a conical rubber thingy with a sheet metal screw in the end? Are these hard to replace?

[caferacer]

i have never had a problem with replacing it ,i was hoping you wold have got the head and stuff buy now