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  • LoHo
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Sep 2002
    • 1341
    • Fresno, CA

    #1

    Hot non-start...

    Yesterday I had to ride downtown a little, looking for a county office. At one point I stalled her out when a guy with a left turn signal on went straight through instead and almost got me. When I hit the starter, it behaved as if the battery was very low and barely turned the starter, which didn't figure, as I had ridden a dozen miles at speed after an easy start. I walked around to complete my errand, wondering how to get home and back to get the bike, etc. After I finished, I walked back to where I'd parked, and she fired right up! WTF? The battery is fairly new. Does this sound like a starter issue, a ground issue, or charging? I doubt charging, as it wouildn't have a stronger charge after sitting than when I'd tried to start it before. It has always had a slow starter when warm/hot, which make those up-hill/ turning/ hop on it/ blend into traffic stall-outs an adventure. Any ideas? Runs fine otherwise...
    "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."
  • CWilliamson
    Truly XSive
    • Aug 2005
    • 175
    • Colorado Springs, Colorado

    #2
    overheated?

    I know on my xs850 after riding around town and stopping for gas the pistons and cylinders would cool at different rates and act like the batter was going because it was too tight. I'd give it about 10 minutes and she'd fire right up.

    Clark

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    • LoHo
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Sep 2002
      • 1341
      • Fresno, CA

      #3
      That is exactly what it feels like. Can it make that much difference? Once it starts cranking it starts right up, but at first it's "RRwww...rrwww...rrrr...."
      "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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      • CWilliamson
        Truly XSive
        • Aug 2005
        • 175
        • Colorado Springs, Colorado

        #4
        yep,

        I'd fill up my tank, buy a coke and relax on the curb until the coke was gone then she'd start right up. That or there's a thermal problem with your battery.

        Clark

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        • randy
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Dec 2003
          • 4521

          #5
          I'd clean all the grounds if I were you.

          One at the rear engine mount -to- frame

          One at the battery - to- frame.

          One at the starter. The starter BODY forms it's own ground to the engine.

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          • D. P. Larmee
            XStremely XSive
            • May 2003
            • 224
            • Evanston, IL

            #6
            I second that it is a probably a ground issue. This has happened to me on numerous vehicles.
            1980 XS 1100 Standard
            1980 XS 1100 Special
            1982 XJ 1100
            1972 Honda CB 350

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            • webbcraft2150
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Sep 2002
              • 1605
              • AUSTIN.TX

              #7
              Check out a Kuryakyn LED charge indicator. Dennis Kirk #406777. It will really open your eyes on how little charge you get when tooling in traffic with alot of stop and go traffic.
              When a 10 isn't enough, get a 11. 80g Hardbagger

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              • John
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Oct 2003
                • 5117

                #8
                It may be that the starter gets weak after it has absorbed the engine heat. If all of the other recommendations don't work, you may need to try that.

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                • randy
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 4521

                  #9
                  Right you are, John. Dirty or worn commutators and brushes do funny things in wide temperature swings. I've even seen the grease in the planetary gears solidified like wax slow the starter down to a crawl.

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