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    Tryed just about everything. Has all new internals in the carbs. Has good spark. I smell gas....what else.am.I.missing? I mean it doesn't even want to run at all. Pops a little and backfires and that's it. Any help would be much appreciated.
    Also cleaned the connectors
    _____________________________________________ 1979 XS 1100 Special "The judge" mods- K&N air pods, 4-1 mac, 147.5 pilots, 57.5 mains, LED turn signal, cafe bars, HEL translucent yellow stainless steel brake line, dyna coil (dc2-1), raptor 660 mc, r6 controls..(sold)

    1982 gs1100e "all business" cafe project
    1980 gs1000g "stock"
    1982 honda express "stretched 10 inch(my daughters scooter)
    2008 jmstar 150cc Chinese scooter ( wife's bike)

  • #2
    Originally posted by lee_dutcher View Post
    Tryed just about everything. Has all new internals in the carbs. Has good spark. I smell gas....what else.am.I.missing? I mean it doesn't even want to run at all. Pops a little and backfires and that's it. Any help would be much appreciated.
    Also cleaned the connectors
    If it has spark, fuel, and compression then it's your ignition timing. The 750 manual has a procedure to go through to make sure it is set appropriately.
    78 E - 2to1 exhaust, dynatek coils, special headlight [SOLD!]
    79 F - gas tank refurb, headgasket change, straight pipes, late model carbs, virago lowering shocks, special headlight and gauges, TC fuse block, GSXR-1100 carbs (WIP)


    "May my tires not fail me, nor my engine grow cold"

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    • #3
      I like working on my 750/850's much more than my 11. Smaller seems easier. Pull the plugs and see if they're fouled.
      1979 XS1100F
      2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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      • #4
        If you recently had the coils out, check you got them reconnected correctly. Not sure how they operate on those tripled, but on an 11 it is not uncommon that the coils get hooked back up swapped.
        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


        Previously owned
        93 GSX600F
        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
        81 XS1100 Special
        81 CB750 C
        80 CB750 C
        78 XS750

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        • #5
          Three separate coils on a 750.
          1979 XS1100F
          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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          • #6
            Literally left to right on each coil to the cylinder. But, just re-reading your first post, does it run, or you cannot get it started? Are you using the enrichener? I believe stock main jets on my 750 with the MKII carbs are 130? Is your timing setup functioning? Crank magneto in-place? Battery good? So many things to guess, with not much info given.
            1979 XS1100F
            2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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            • #7
              Battery is new and fully charged the carbs have been cleaned 3 times with all new internals. I never messed with the timing. Any one got a.link.on how to set the timing on it? Yes I'm.using the inrichiner. And yes 140 are the stock mains
              _____________________________________________ 1979 XS 1100 Special "The judge" mods- K&N air pods, 4-1 mac, 147.5 pilots, 57.5 mains, LED turn signal, cafe bars, HEL translucent yellow stainless steel brake line, dyna coil (dc2-1), raptor 660 mc, r6 controls..(sold)

              1982 gs1100e "all business" cafe project
              1980 gs1000g "stock"
              1982 honda express "stretched 10 inch(my daughters scooter)
              2008 jmstar 150cc Chinese scooter ( wife's bike)

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              • #8
                140? No sir, not stock, unless ur dealing with different carbs. 130 Mikuni mains. And, are u not a member of yamaha-triples.org?
                1979 XS1100F
                2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                • #9
                  After you have tried to start it, have you looked at the plugs? See if they are wet with fuel, or dry? Dry equal no fuel, slightly wet looking, got fuel but no spark at the right time. REALLY wet looking may be to rich of a mixture.

                  Pull the plugs out one at a time and check for spark by grounding them to the engine and trying to start the bike. Good spark on all three?

                  Now, assuming you have good compression on all three cylinders. You say you did nothing to change the timing. Did you at any point unplug the coils? Possibly re plug them into the wrong wires?

                  140 mains when they should be 130 could make the mix to rich to fire.
                  Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                  When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                  81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                  80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                  Previously owned
                  93 GSX600F
                  80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                  81 XS1100 Special
                  81 CB750 C
                  80 CB750 C
                  78 XS750

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                  • #10
                    Mains shouldn't make any difference on startup. If the plugs are fouled or even old it'll act that way. I'm betting some kind of ignition issue.
                    Greg

                    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                    ― Albert Einstein

                    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                    The list changes.

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                    • #11
                      Sorry yes there 130 mains is what I meant to type. Yea never unplugged anything except the battery and headlight. Plug are wet but not soaked. They are brand new. Yes I'm sure I have spark. Checked all three and have good strong spark.
                      _____________________________________________ 1979 XS 1100 Special "The judge" mods- K&N air pods, 4-1 mac, 147.5 pilots, 57.5 mains, LED turn signal, cafe bars, HEL translucent yellow stainless steel brake line, dyna coil (dc2-1), raptor 660 mc, r6 controls..(sold)

                      1982 gs1100e "all business" cafe project
                      1980 gs1000g "stock"
                      1982 honda express "stretched 10 inch(my daughters scooter)
                      2008 jmstar 150cc Chinese scooter ( wife's bike)

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                      • #12
                        I did just do a starter clutch on it. In involved to remove the whole left side basically...I'm having a feeling sense i rotated the motor to get oil pump gear off i messed the timing up?
                        _____________________________________________ 1979 XS 1100 Special "The judge" mods- K&N air pods, 4-1 mac, 147.5 pilots, 57.5 mains, LED turn signal, cafe bars, HEL translucent yellow stainless steel brake line, dyna coil (dc2-1), raptor 660 mc, r6 controls..(sold)

                        1982 gs1100e "all business" cafe project
                        1980 gs1000g "stock"
                        1982 honda express "stretched 10 inch(my daughters scooter)
                        2008 jmstar 150cc Chinese scooter ( wife's bike)

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                        • #13
                          well, u never said if you have a timing light to check the timing. Basically same premise as the 1100.
                          1979 XS1100F
                          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by IanDMacDonald View Post
                            well, u never said if you have a timing light to check the timing. Basically same premise as the 1100.
                            He can't check the timing with a timing light without having the bike running first. Well, I guess you could have crank the bike by hand and see where it flashes at...
                            78 E - 2to1 exhaust, dynatek coils, special headlight [SOLD!]
                            79 F - gas tank refurb, headgasket change, straight pipes, late model carbs, virago lowering shocks, special headlight and gauges, TC fuse block, GSXR-1100 carbs (WIP)


                            "May my tires not fail me, nor my engine grow cold"

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                            • #15
                              Touche' I'm wondering if he left the magneto or whatever that's called off the end of the crank, part of the timing assembly.
                              1979 XS1100F
                              2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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