Honda CB1100 why no XS !!

[gaffer77]

Have you guys seen this ??

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/199412/images/mcnmain.jpg

Anyway if there is a place in the market for this bike
(looks kinda XS to me in allot of ways )

Why can't Yam make a retro XS keepin the shaft as well ??

[Crazcnuk]

It looks more like a nighthawk...

I don't think Honda had a CB1100, back in the old days, did they?
CB1000 is the last one I remember.

Maybe Yammy needs to bring out an updated, modernized XS1300.... about 145hp... With removable hard luggage, reminiscent of Vetter type stuff. Heck, get Chris to design it!


Hmmm dreamining now, fuel injection, 6 speed tranny, 90amp alternator, wider tires,

[gaffer77]

No CB1100 we had a CB900 and CBX 1000 over here
i just thought if theres a place for that then surely theres a place for an XS

[Geezer]

There was a CB1100F imported into the US for a couple years. It was rather late on the market for it and it didn't sell well.

I worked on a couple and they were nice bikes but the Suzie 1100 would blow it away.

Geezer

[Wayne]

Yamaha is too busy making crappy V-Twins to try something like this in the US.
Of course as per usuall with Yammy they have exactly what your looking for in Europe.
Yamaha XJR1300

http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/products/motorcycles/street/xjr1300.jsp

But its not available here in the US

[Crazcnuk]

see next post. double post deleted!

[Crazcnuk]

Actually, I have no issue with Yammy's V-twins. Not powerful, but reliable.

Yammy is also making piles of V-4s.

I do remember that CB1100F now that you mention it. It was an extension of the Super Sport line wasn't it?

I was never into the F line, I liked the touring side better than the sport. I always liked the looks of the CB900C when it was decked.

[hamjam]

Hi the honda x 4 was a really nice bike lotsasnot handled well great looking ....but they decided not to import them here the one that i looked at rode was put into a crusher ;-(
Jim

http://www.honda-x4.agro.turystyka.pl/honda_x_four1.jpg

[hamjam]

https://www.agro.turystyka.pl/honda-x4/

another look
Jim

[gaffer77]

XJR is a great bike ,,just not retro enuff for me

That CB nearly captures it

[Geezer]

Originally posted by gaffer77
XJR is a great bike ,,just not retro enuff

Or sold in the USA.

Geezer

[pggg]

Xjr 1200's are pretty common down here too, have been around for since about mid nineties, also the later 1300's, I've ridden with a few on the roads over the years, He-He the big hulking XS11 is always their 'DADDY' The Xjr's are pretty restricted from the showroom floor, they're supposed to be easy to 'hot-up' with pipes filter and jets, apparently older FJ1200 manifolds will fit and really liven up the Xjr motor

[Crazcnuk]

Too crotch rocket for me.

The birth of the touring bike happened in the late 70's early 80's.

It began with Chris Vetter and his tour designs, which evolved from his designs of the late 60's early 70's.

by the end of the 70's you could bolt on a fairing (full) and saddlebags on pretty much any standard bike. Crotch rockets did not yet exist. They were starting with the Honda F series, and the XS was a bridge between the standard bike and a sport bike.

Later these two classes divided into 3 distinct bike types. Tourer, Cruiser and Rocket. There are models trying to bridge these in various ways. Full tour came as Goldwings, Ventures, Cavalcades, and whatever Kawasaki called theirs.

There were the full out sport bikes, GSX-Rs, CBRs, etc.

Cruisers like Viragos, Shadows, Intruders, Vulcans, etc.

ST1100s, GSX-Es, etc were a bridge between sport and tour. There are many tour/cruiser types, essentially a cruiser with bags and a windshield.

Personally I like the CB900C, XS1100std, GS1000L, KZ1000ltd type of bike. Basically a standard bike. Not sport, not tour, not cruiser, but with the capability to compete in all 3 categories. Powerful enough to be called a superbike, versatile enough to add the options for touring, and cool enough to cruise.

And most important of all, you could get any of these bikes, fully loaded for FAR less than a Goldwing.

[kf4anm]

interesting fact about the goldwing. when it was introduced in 75 it was intended to be a pure street muscle bike. people soon realized the flat 4 was the perfect tourer and started adding luggage. They didn't start coming from mother honda fully equiped until the early 80's, even then they continued to offer the standard until 84. I have an 83 dressed and a 78 that is a naked project.

[Crazcnuk]

Craig Vetter actually made the first 'Hondaline' Fairing for the Gold Wing in 1975-6.

Unfortunately, there is only 1 known to exist and it's in a museum!!

The Suzuki GT-750 (3cyl, 2 stroke, water cooled) Water Buffalo was Suzuki's answer to the Gold Wing. People always confuse it with the Kawasaki 2 stroke triple, which was an air-cooled sport bike.

If 2-strokes hadn't been legislated off the road by the late 70's, we may have seen a 1000cc or better 2 stroke....