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  • #31
    A new subtopic in this omnibus "ask em as you find em" thread......I'm working on an 80G with 79 carbs (F I think) I've had a leaky petcock, and gasoil, so I know one of the carbs has been leaking. I also know there was rebuilding near my purchase. When (okay maybe if) I order jets, do I run off 79 or 80 spec?
    "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

    Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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    • #32
      You use the '79, as that is what the carbs are.
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • #33
        Tanks Ray. Wasnt sure whether to go with that or with "well if this is what they changed to..." Actually this is one more reason for me to grumble about the P.O., who did the swap.
        "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

        Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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        • #34
          My carbs are off!
          "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

          Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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          • #35
            COOL! Now keep all the parts for each carb in it's own place! The BIG thing with the '79 is the idle adjustment screw. The end is a sharp point, and can break off in the carb body. It's not fatal, but it DOES feel like it. Just follow directions in the repair thread and go slow. You should NOT need to take the bodies off the rack, just strip them down and use spray cleaner on them. You can use the tube on the cleaner to make sure each passage is clean, by spraying in one side and looking for the cleaner to come out the other side. WEAR SAFETY GLASSES!!
            When you put the idle screws back in, just turn the screw driver by the shank, NOT the handle. This will keep you from over tightening them, and breaking the tip off.
            Ray Matteis
            KE6NHG
            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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            • #36
              "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

              Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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              • #37
                Ive magic markered the bodies, the bowls and the diaphram caps. I don't think I'll do any disassembly til this evening or tomorrow. This work Ive been doing at my place of work, and I have to stop to deal with customers from time to time. Dont want to have that distraction, so will spend my Holiday weekend getting clean.
                "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

                Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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                • #38
                  Hi Jeff, it's a good idea to dismantle on a designated table or bench on top of an old bath towel so the little parts don't vanish and make sure the screwdrivers you use fit the jets snugly. HTH
                  1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                  1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                  1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                  1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                  1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                  Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                  • #39
                    Magic marker has a way of smearing and getting black stuff on you and the work area or it just plain disappears if you look at it wrong when you're cleaning carburetor parts.

                    You can use an electric pencil to write the numbers on the carburetor bodies and inside the caps and float bowls or use a small punch to make the appropriate number of small punch marks . .. ... .... on the forward outer edges of the mating flanges at the junction of the carburetor bodies and float bowls. You won't see the punch marks when the carburetors are on the engine but you'll never mix them up when you're working on them.

                    The caps don't matter if you mix them up but you can mark them too so you can keep parts in them while you work: dirty parts in float bowls, clean parts in the carburetor caps.


                    Don't forget to clean the Start Jets in the float bowls. Those little holes in the edges of the bowls where the brass tube from the carburetor body goes has a tiny jet at the bottom that gets plugged up. The jet has to be clean or the engine will be hard to start and idle when it's cold.

                    Happy cleaning!

                    .
                    -- Scott
                    _____

                    2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                    1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                    1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                    1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                    1979 XS1100F: parts
                    2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                    • #40
                      dirty parts in float bowls, clean parts in the carburetor caps.
                      y
                      .
                      Thanks. Great tip!

                      I anticpated the ink might not stand up to carb cleaner, pentrating oil, and other goodies it might meet, but I just fingered I'll not spray recklessly, and all will be well. Conversely, scribing numbers into the material just seems so....so....permanent.
                      "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

                      Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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                      • #41
                        Try not to go all John Hancock with the punch or the pencil and it will work. Be patient and remember you're just marking the parts for yourself on the bench, not so they can be seen from space!

                        .
                        -- Scott
                        _____

                        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                        1979 XS1100F: parts
                        2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                        • #42
                          Puskrat -- here's a roadmap if you're interested. It's really a good helper.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95nlrP-yn2I
                          79 F
                          Previously owned: (among others)
                          1969 Harley- Davidson Rapido 125 (Aermacchi)
                          1967 Suzuki X6 Hustler
                          1973 Suzuki TM 125
                          1979 XS1100 F
                          2005 Kaw. Vulcan VN800
                          1991 BMW K75

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by puskrat View Post
                            Ive magic markered the bodies, the bowls and the diaphram caps. I don't think I'll do any disassembly til this evening or tomorrow. This work Ive been doing at my place of work, and I have to stop to deal with customers from time to time. Dont want to have that distraction, so will spend my Holiday weekend getting clean.
                            Also, to add to what Ray stated, keep the floats and float needles to their specific carb to.
                            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                            • #44
                              I scratch the number using a metal pick into the inside of the bowl and the airbox side throat of the carb. If anyone wanted to remove it later, it could easily be polished out. The marking is for an added level of confidence. Just don't mix them up
                              82J · 81SH · 79SF Fire Damage · 78E · 79F Parts Bike · 04 Buell Blast
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                              • #45
                                Carbs are broken into major subassemblies except for two stuck slides. I've never heard of such a thing. I've sprayed 'em down and left them for the night. Should I be worried? Do carb slides seize? Diaphrams look to be intact, and pretty fresh. They're apparently replacements, surely thicker than what I see in the repair threads and youtube vids. bowl gaskets are all losses. Expected.

                                Waiting to get all the slides out before disassembling any. Removed main jets and pilot jet "plug screws". Left while two painters were arguing back and forth about whether my PB, Sili lube, and two kinds of carb cleaner fumes were going to ruin their finishes.
                                "Venturered" 80 XS1100G - "DoraMax" getting sort of resto/destro ed.

                                Yeah it's a pretty blue, but just because you're old is no excuse to buy a bagger. Fortunately I have wrenches.

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