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  • #16
    Back to the tires. Some of the tires that come apart are NEW tires! If there is a problem when built, it will throw the tread, and some of the steel cords to go with it. I've had 10 years behind the wheel of a truck, from owner-operator to union driver. And yes, the car drivers are usually the problem on the road.
    If you DO have to ride near a truck, in traffic, try to ride by the cab door, or just in FRONT of the rear tires, and on the outside of your lane from the truck. This will give you the most time to react, and more important, keep you in sight of the driver.
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • #17
      You are right about the quality of tires and they have always been dangerous but now with so much being made overseas it is common to have new tires go flat that you can't balance etc. You think when you buy a name brand you are ok but just like pocketbooks and tennis shoes tires have knockoffs too. Now some Japanese tires are much better than ours but if you get some from Africa they will be cheap and you might not be happy.
      To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

      Rodan
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
      1980 G Silverbird
      Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
      1198 Overbore kit
      Grizzly 660 ACCT
      Barnett Clutch Springs
      R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
      122.5 Main Jets
      ACCT Mod
      Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
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      • #18
        I hammered a cap this AM

        I was driving my son to work at O dark thirty this AM on I-565 and saw pieces looming in front of me, swerved a bit and missed the big piece but my left wheel hit a chunk that was to the left of the big piece that I swerved to miss. It came up really fast and my reaction was tempered by the fact that the road was just getting dampened by rain.

        Lots of noise but no damage, thought it was ironic because I was reading about it here the night before. I have never had the opportunity to hit a cap riding a bike, I expect it could get ugly fast.
        79 SF & 80 LG MNS
        73 & 74 RD 350's
        73 Honda CL 450
        Graveyard - '81 XS850 Special

        All of my bikes are projects, maybe one day I'll have them running.

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        • #19
          According to Mythbusters: Their initial test in 2007. I remember seeing a more recent episode, I think they revisited it and used a Motorcyclist as well, with similar results.

          A tire on a big rig can explode with lethal force.

          CONFIRMED

          The MythBusters first tested whether a big rig tire could actually explode. They managed to obtain several truck tires and subjected them to actual road conditions, to try to replicate certain circumstances that could cause a tire to explode. Although they could not make a tire fail catastrophically, they managed to cause it to disintegrate violently by running the tire flat at highway speed, though the flying debris failed to hit the dummy set up next to the tire. However, the MythBusters were able to measure the velocity the debris. Taking an actual piece of the exploded tire, the MythBusters launched it at its measured initial velocity into a pig spine-equipped ballistics gel dummy behind a car window. The piece of debris smashed through the window and literally decapitated the dummy, proving the myth was in fact possible.
          Here's their video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcwCCWkhBI

          All good valid points. IMHO it's important to allow enough following distance to have time to be able to see any road hazard in front of you to be able to react to avoid it. On highways ALONE, I prefer to run IN THE MIDDLE of the lane, due to chances of wind gusts blowing me sideways, possibly over towards the other lane and vehicles or too close to the shoulder/road edge. Due to the speeds of the vehicles, not much chance for much oil or other slippery fluids to be too thick/plentiful in the center lane "at highway speeds". If you ride in the right tire track, you are looked at like a bicycle, and cagers will often try to SHARE your lane. As stated earlier, in the left wheel track, you're quite close to the vehicles in the lane to your left. In the middle....you OWN the lane.... at least until someone tries to take it from you!

          Now in town, especially near intersections, YES I run in the tire lanes to avoid slippery stuff dropped by vehicles while waiting for the light to change, etc.!

          T.C.
          T. C. Gresham
          81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
          79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
          History shows again and again,
          How nature points out the folly of men!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
            According to Mythbusters: Their initial test in 2007. I remember seeing a more recent episode, I think they revisited it and used a Motorcyclist as well, with similar results.

            Here's their video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcwCCWkhBI
            That piece of rubber they shot at Buster was amazingly similar to the gator in the video in the OP. That cage driver is probably very lucky that the windshield is sloped, and made out of safety glass, as opposed to the side glass the Mythbusters used, which is not safety glass. Plus, it looked like it hit the hood/front of the car first, which seemed to have caused a little deflection too. Wouldn't want to see that coming at a motorcycle windshield.
            I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

            '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DiverRay View Post
              Back to the tires. Some of the tires that come apart are NEW tires! If there is a problem when built, it will throw the tread, and some of the steel cords to go with it. I've had 10 years behind the wheel of a truck, from owner-operator to union driver. And yes, the car drivers are usually the problem on the road.
              If you DO have to ride near a truck, in traffic, try to ride by the cab door, or just in FRONT of the rear tires, and on the outside of your lane from the truck. This will give you the most time to react, and more important, keep you in sight of the driver.
              I would much rather be sharing the highway with an owner/op or a union driver than some of the company drivers that are running around out there.

              Question: How do you know when your wife has been cheating on you with a Swift driver?

              Answer: When you get home your mailbox is knocked over, and he's still trying to back out of the driveway.
              I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

              '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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              • #22
                Question: How do you know when your wife has been cheating on you with a Swift driver?

                Answer: When you get home your mailbox is knocked over, and he's still trying to back out of the driveway.
                +1!!
                We like to go down to the boat ramp at opening of salmon season. About every two years we have someone park the trailer, AND truck in the ocean....
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                • #23
                  I learned to stay away from trucks when i had my driving permit (back in 77). We lived in Texas at the time, I was driving with my dad and we were going from Fort Hood to Waco to get some freeway experience. I was driving next to a truck right next to the trailers tires when one exploded. It scared the carp out of my dad as some of the tire hit the car near him (the window was down, no air conditioning). Luckily for us I was so focused on driving I didn't flinch or things could have gone bad quickly.

                  Lesson learned I stay way behind a truck or I pass them quickly whether in a cage or on a bike.
                  Ty

                  78 XS1100E - Now in Minnesota
                  80 XS1100LG - The Punisher
                  82 XJ1100 - Current project - The Twins
                  82 XJ1100 - Wife's Bike - The Twins
                  82 XJ1100 - Daughter's Bike
                  72 Suzuki TS125 - Daughter's Bike
                  72 Yamaha Mini JT2 - Youngest Daughter's bike (She wants a bigger one now)

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                  • #24
                    Guys that windshield will not always stop a large chunk of tire if hit right and will not stop a large rock. And I have seen tires on logging trucks explode but the main cause is damaged steel cords heat up and standard corded do not seem to have the same issues. Tread damage seems to not cause severe issues but side wall will. A hanging brake is always good for boom and does not take long.
                    To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                    Rodan
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                    1980 G Silverbird
                    Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                    1198 Overbore kit
                    Grizzly 660 ACCT
                    Barnett Clutch Springs
                    R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                    122.5 Main Jets
                    ACCT Mod
                    Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                    Antivibe Bar ends
                    Rear trunk add-on
                    http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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                    • #25
                      A hanging brake is always good for boom and does not take long.
                      I was in a nap trap one night on I65 just this side of Chicago, and had just gone to bed. I heard a big bang at the back of the truck and I thought somebody had hit my wagon. So I got up and walked to the back of the truck. What I saw was a buggy with all eight wheels on fire. Evidently the driver hadn't adjusted his brakes in forever, and he had driven quite a distance that day. Other drivers said his wheels were smoking for quite a while coming up 65. The bang I heard was when one of the tires burned through and exploded - which all eight eventually did. Every time one went it sounded like a bomb going off.

                      The driver managed to unhook from his wagon and then pulled his burning buggy forward - right behind a gasoline tanker, of course. I knocked on the tanker's door and told him there was a big tire fire right behind him, and that he might want to move his truck. At first he didn't want to get out of bed, but I guess curiosity got the better of him, and he went back and took a look. Then he moved his truck.

                      As the fire continued to burn tires exploded and springs popped, and by the time the fire department got there, there wasn't much left but a charred frame and motor. I knew I should have brought marshmallows on that trip.
                      I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                      '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                      • #26
                        Split Rims.

                        Does anyone remember split rims???I had a Dodge 1977 3/4 ton standard Granny gear.pickup.with split rims..Do big trucks still use them.???Change them in a cage.!!.
                        1980xs1100.sg Pacifica Fairing ..stock.
                        2006 Honda Shadow Spirit 1100.! ⛺

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                        • #27
                          I think they've outlawed them. Too dangerous.

                          Saw one leave a wheel of a 3/4 ton Ford 4x4 going down a city street and put a hole in the wall of a house. Good thing there wasn't a kid playing in the yard.
                          Greg

                          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                          ― Albert Einstein

                          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                          The list changes.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tomcos67 View Post
                            Does anyone remember split rims???I had a Dodge 1977 3/4 ton standard Granny gear.pickup.with split rims..Do big trucks still use them.???Change them in a cage.!!.
                            Split rims have been known to kill just from airing the tire when it's first installed. I had an uncle who used to own a garage years ago, and he had a cage built to air up tires so if a split rim came off his head wouldn't come off along with it.
                            I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                            '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                            • #29
                              damnedest thing I ever saw a truck do was blown its engine while running down the NJTPK at 75 mph...Truck was southbound and I just entered the TPK northbound and had driven about 1 mile when I saw it happened... The engine exploded and the hood to engine blew open and tons of smoke billowing out and totally obscuring the truck's driver...since i was going the other way i just watched in my rear view mirror until I was out of sight. I kept listening to the traffic reports but there was no mention of it...apparently the driver was able to keep the rig under control...
                              1980 XS650G Special-Two
                              1993 Honda ST1100

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                              • #30
                                Ran the split,Budd and Dayton wheels.Love watch a guy spray ether in side a tire,light it, to get the bead set
                                Had a steel flat bed blow atire beside me,sounded like a shot gun and then wham..tire hit the top of my hood then windshield and box.That was scarry.
                                Have seen a truck or two loose a wheel,a JB driver plowed into a stray wheel from the truck in front of me.Don't think any body got hurt.
                                I lost a wheel on my way to Chicago from Cincinnati just north of Indy,didn't know it,had a light load on the pig I was hauling and at night.Lots of cb chatter...it was me.So I turned around looking for it and heard it(on the cb) rolled into the truck stop so I went there and they had the torn up rim and tire.
                                So after the company( Haulmark,division of Mid West Emory) would not
                                haul any more Santa Fe pigs with that type of trailer.
                                Just glad no one was hurt,running as an o/o then.
                                Last edited by STEPPENWOLF; 10-26-2015, 11:49 PM.
                                '80 XS1100 SG
                                Don't let the good times pass you by..grab all you can
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Z4cjUlIo4

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