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  • A few words on big trucks...

    Four words actually - stay away from them. The DOT requires big trucks to have "virgin steers", or in plain language, brand new non-recapped tires on the front wheels. But you can just about bet that everything else is a retreaded tire because they're a lot less expensive, and trucking companies are all about expenses.

    Truckers refer to the caps on the tires as "gators", and the problem with them is that they can come off - particularly on very hot days. The new treads are vulcanized onto the old tire carcass, and vulcanizing is a heat process. A lot of truckers don't maintain their tire pressures like they should 'cause it takes forever to air up eighteen tires to 105 psi, and tires running at lower pressures in conjunction with hot pavement can really get hot. Hot enough to make the vulcanizing come loose, and the next thing you know you've got a gator flying through the air. They're big, heavy chunks of rubber, and they can literally knock your head off.

    Just for fun, I did a little math. Lets say you've got a 25 pound chunk of rubber flying at 60mph. Using a firearms muzzle energy computer for a 175000 grain projectile (25 pounds X 7000 grains per pound) traveling at 88 fps (60 mph) it shows 3009 foot pounds of energy. To put that in perspective, a 44 magnum generates somewhere in the neighborhood of 750 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle.

    I don't ride behind trucks, and when I need to pass one I don't fool around - I get past them, and I do it like I mean business.

    Why am I even mentioning this stuff? Cause I just watched this video, and it got me thinking - Truck tire shreds on highway. Just thought I would pass it along...
    I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

    '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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    Drove a truck for a while back in the day. I think about what you're saying every time I get close to a truck.

    The person I drove for NEVER bought a new tire, when one gave up he just bought a used one to replace it.

    Also, don't follow cages too close and NEVER follow anything in the center of the lane, always in a track. Reason being if there is anything on the road it won't be in the track, it'll be off to the side or right in the center where no tires run to move it. Found that out the hard way in Arkansas about 4 years ago on the way to XS Southeast. A front tire going down at 70 - 80 MPH isn't something I want to experience again.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

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    • #3
      don't follow cages too close and NEVER follow anything in the center of the lane, always in a track. Reason being if there is anything on the road it won't be in the track, it'll be off to the side or right in the center where no tires run to move it.
      Excellent advise. I'll tell a little story here that still make me laugh every time I think about it...

      I was running a skateboard between Cincinnati and Indianapolis one night in the wee hours of the morning. I was in the granny lane with a four wheeler right on my ICC bumper, and another big truck in the hammer lane about fifty feet behind my ICC and moving up slowly to pass. Up ahead in the farthest reaches of my headlights I saw a HUGE possum walking across the road. He had just crossed the zipper line, and I signaled left and straddled the zipper to keep from hitting him.

      I immediately got on the radio and said "sorry about that driver, I was just trying to keep from hitting that possum." He came back with "You missed him, but that four wheeler behind you didn't. He squished." I could just imagine what must have been going through that four wheeler driver's mind 'cause it was a REALLY big possum. Probably not much fun for that four wheeler to clean up later, either.

      Which is yet another good reason not to follow closely behind big trucks.
      I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

      '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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      • #4
        I never trust riding near big trucks

        Years ago i was commuting home on the local interstate bypasses on multiple laned divided hwy...3 lanes each way. I saw this tractor trailer rig about 200 yards ahead of me...as i closed to within 100 yards of it i see one of the trailer wheels begin to smoke and within a short time I was billowing clouds of smoke back towards me...I immediately backed off and moved over to the extreme left lane...truck was in the right lane...The truck is doing a good 70 mph and I remained 100yard behind. all of a sudden that wheel exploded and this hunk of wheel hub came flying through the air with a tril of smoke following...had I stayed where i was the wheel hub would have hit me right in the head...as it was the truck driver never even knew it happened... I was able to get him to stop...we both walked back to the damaged wheel. The driver just shrugged his shoulders and got back in his rig to continue on like nothing had ever happened..that was back in the 80s' and to this day its still clearly embedded in my memory...
        1980 XS650G Special-Two
        1993 Honda ST1100

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        • #5
          That's a big ,,,10_4 .Hate recaps lying in road .Now that's a road hazzard!!!?Alot of good points , mostly if your going to pass then pass people.!!Don't hang there all freaking Day!!!?Especially when passing up hill ,,,take the freaking cruise control off ,and step on it.!!!And after you pass ,,, don't do a NASCAR move and pull Ten feet in front of truck or car and then slow down!!!!!How about 1\4mile or so at 70 its only a minute or two....I feel sorry for big rig drivers. Just because of all the poor drivers out there.!!! Sorry just venting......
          1980xs1100.sg Pacifica Fairing ..stock.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by madmax-im View Post
            Years ago i was commuting home on the local interstate bypasses on multiple laned divided hwy...3 lanes each way. I saw this tractor trailer rig about 200 yards ahead of me...as i closed to within 100 yards of it i see one of the trailer wheels begin to smoke and within a short time I was billowing clouds of smoke back towards me...I immediately backed off and moved over to the extreme left lane...truck was in the right lane...The truck is doing a good 70 mph and I remained 100yard behind. all of a sudden that wheel exploded and this hunk of wheel hub came flying through the air with a tril of smoke following...had I stayed where i was the wheel hub would have hit me right in the head...as it was the truck driver never even knew it happened... I was able to get him to stop...we both walked back to the damaged wheel. The driver just shrugged his shoulders and got back in his rig to continue on like nothing had ever happened..that was back in the 80s' and to this day its still clearly embedded in my memory...
            Some drivers are pretty smart, and some of them are dumber than a box of rocks. The one thing they tend to have in common is that they work some long hours. Much longer than what it usually says in their log books.

            They usually do more than just drive the truck. Lots of times they unload them, or in the case of flatbeds they have to secure and tarp loads, which is hard azz work. That work is supposed to go in your log book too, but some of the trucking companies actually teach them how to cheat on their logs so they can drive more miles. And that means you've got drivers going down the road with 80K pounds or better that might be very, very tired.

            Which is (come on and say it with me...) yet another reason to stay as far away from big trucks as you can.
            I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

            '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tomcos67 View Post
              That's a big ,,,10_4 .Hate recaps lying in road .Now that's a road hazzard!!!?Alot of good points , mostly if your going to pass then pass people.!!Don't hang there all freaking Day!!!?Especially when passing up hill ,,,take the freaking cruise control off ,and step on it.!!!And after you pass ,,, don't do a NASCAR move and pull Ten feet in front of truck or car and then slow down!!!!!How about 1\4mile or so at 70 its only a minute or two....I feel sorry for big rig drivers. Just because of all the poor drivers out there.!!! Sorry just venting......
              Those are some good points too. On trucks with a long nose, if you're not out in front of them a couple car lengths they may not even be able to see you. I had a guy cut under my hood in a traffic jam one afternoon, and I didn't see him do it. He was driving a Hundai Elantra, and I'll bet I pushed him 1/4 mile down the road at an idle before traffic came to a complete stop again. Never even knew he was there 'till I saw a head pop up between me and the car I thought I was following. I tagged him so gently that it just put two little dimples in his bumper from the bolts on my front bumper, but I'll bet you there was a pile of bricks on that front seat where he had been sitting.
              I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

              '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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              • #8
                doesnt matter if i am riding a bike or in my cage I never hang with the big rigs... I pass them as quickly as I can and get as far from them as quickly as possible...I see stupid ppl in cages that are in the passing lane yet they are running side by side with the big rigs and just taking their sweet time to pass....this is an accident they are begging for...
                1980 XS650G Special-Two
                1993 Honda ST1100

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                • #9
                  Big trucks have another issue but it can be dump trucks or big 4 wheelers. The deep big treads can pick up large rocks and I swear they sling them a lot faster than 70 mph because I had one come threw the windshield on my small station wagon once and had a friend that was ridding with a guy that had no shield on bike and got hit in chest with one.
                  To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                  Rodan
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ViperRon View Post
                    Big trucks have another issue but it can be dump trucks or big 4 wheelers. The deep big treads can pick up large rocks and I swear they sling them a lot faster than 70 mph because I had one come threw the windshield on my small station wagon once and had a friend that was ridding with a guy that had no shield on bike and got hit in chest with one.
                    You can say that again ...

                    I've been hit by BIG rocks (flung from big trucks) in the face shield, arms, knuckles, knees, shins, and chest.
                    Last edited by Prisoner6; 10-24-2015, 07:41 AM.
                    Marco

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ViperRon View Post
                      Big trucks have another issue but it can be dump trucks or big 4 wheelers. The deep big treads can pick up large rocks and I swear they sling them a lot faster than 70 mph because I had one come threw the windshield on my small station wagon once and had a friend that was ridding with a guy that had no shield on bike and got hit in chest with one.
                      I'll bet that left a big bruise. If that happened to me I'd probably react like a cat. Wouldn't let you know right away I was hurt, but you'd find me an hour later behind the couch going "friggin MEOW, man!"
                      I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                      '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dbeardslee View Post
                        I'll bet that left a big bruise. If that happened to me I'd probably react like a cat. Wouldn't let you know right away I was hurt, but you'd find me an hour later behind the couch going "friggin MEOW, man!"
                        The one time I was hit in the chest by a rock, it did hurt, of course ...

                        But fortunately, it was a winter ride ... so I had lots of layers of clothes on, including a thick leather jacket.

                        No bruise ...

                        BUT, the rocks that have hit me in the shins, knees and knuckles ... now THOSE left bruises.
                        Marco

                        Current bikes:
                        1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
                        1979 Honda CBX
                        2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

                        Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
                        WE MISS YOU, DON

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                        • #13
                          Two years ago, I got hit on I59 coming from Barber. The impact took ff the yop half of my windscreen. I sure glad it was there.
                          Marty (in Mississippi)
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                            Two years ago, I got hit on I59 coming from Barber. The impact took ff the yop half of my windscreen. I sure glad it was there.
                            Hi Marty,
                            I see your keyboard has some missing letters....like my T
                            I have had some big things bounce off my windshield too.
                            Phil
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Prisoner6 View Post
                              The one time I was hit in the chest by a rock, it did hurt, of course ...

                              But fortunately, it was a winter ride ... so I had lots of layers of clothes on, including a thick leather jacket.

                              No bruise ...

                              BUT, the rocks that have hit me in the shins, knees and knuckles ... now THOSE left bruises.
                              Knock on wood...I haven't got rocked yet!!!!
                              1980xs1100.sg Pacifica Fairing ..stock.
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