Camera mount suggestions

[TADracer]

I needed that ride!

Doug, thanks for the ride. I had a new knee plugged in a couple of weeks ago and haven't been able to get back up on 2 wheels yet (maybe Saturday). I really enjoyed your vids and I needed that ride!

Weather here in New Orleans is nice and cool this morning (unusual for August) and perfect for riding so I had that feeling in mind when I was watching your vids here in my office on the big screen with the volume up and enjoying a morning cup of coffee.

Thanks!

[STEPPENWOLF]

Yeah, it has to clutch something, doesn't it?

Well actually you can shift easily without the clutch,started doing it in the 70's
no grind,no fuss, no mess....ask any old truck driver.I still have the original in my 11,I don't want to replace it cause I don't know how.

[CaptonZap]

Do any old truck drivers have a sense of humor?

[STEPPENWOLF]

MR.Dbeardslee do you have a sense of humor? What do I know I cut grass for for a living

[dbeardslee]

Doug, thanks for the ride. I had a new knee plugged in a couple of weeks ago and haven't been able to get back up on 2 wheels yet (maybe Saturday). I really enjoyed your vids and I needed that ride!

Weather here in New Orleans is nice and cool this morning (unusual for August) and perfect for riding so I had that feeling in mind when I was watching your vids here in my office on the big screen with the volume up and enjoying a morning cup of coffee.

Thanks!

Glad you enjoyed 'em, Mike. I was disappointed with sound quality - I really wanted to capture the growl, but the buzzing was drowning it out. But keep an eye out - now that I've got that mount I'm sure I'll post more.

Steppenwolf just got a new knee too, plus he got his foot nailed back on, so I'm sure he knows right where you're coming from.

As far as old truck drivers having a sense of humor - I'm of the opinion that if you're an old anything you better have one. God sure seems to.

[dbeardslee]

Buzz kill

I cut about 8-10" from and old, skinny bicycle innertube today, put several wraps around the handlebars, and used it as a vibration dampener for the camera mount. Seems to have worked and it got rid of that annoying buzzing sound. I also got the clutch cable out of the shot, and even the wind noise was less noticeable. You'll have to forgive my musical rendition at the beginning (and the F-bomb that's part of it) but something about the first ride of the day just makes me want to sing. Too bad I can't carry a tune in a bucket.

Anyway, here's another vid for TADracer's coffee break. The first three or four minutes are kind of lame, but it's trash day and it was also right around lunch time, so everybody and his brother was out. But you can hear the growl of the motor a lot better - Betsy tooling around the burbs

[bikerphil]

A trick I used that helps reduce wind noise is to put a small piece of tape over the microphone hole in the camera. Sound will still penetrate thru but not the wind.

[dbeardslee]

A trick I used that helps reduce wind noise is to put a small piece of tape over the microphone hole in the camera. Sound will still penetrate thru but not the wind.

I'll give it a try. Does it matter what kind of tape?

[bikerphil]

I used clear Scotch tape, I don't think it matters though.

[3Phase]

How in blazes did you manage to keep the wind noise down when the camera was mounted on a skydiving helmet? Watching the video and listening to the sound it does seem that the mic circuit itself has some type of dynamic volume control because the singing from the cam chain and the ACCT volume changes. Yours is obviously being picked up and amplified by the camera, mine sings too but I can't really hear it unless I have the fairing mounted.

I was interested enough to check the Mobius user manual/web page. Now I want one too but there doesn't seem to be any option to do anything with the Audio except turn it On or Off. There a slough of Video options, what else can you expect from a camera for RC Modelers.

I did see an option to add an external mic to the camera. You could add a boom mic for inside your helmet out of the wind or use a Bluetooth transmitter for a wireless mic:-

Youtube: Mobius Camera with External Mic by 12Radius


Or you could tape over the hole with earplug foam.

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[dbeardslee]

How in blazes did you manage to keep the wind noise down when the camera was mounted on a skydiving helmet? Watching the video and listening to the sound it does seem that the mic circuit itself has some type of dynamic volume control because the singing from the cam chain and the ACCT volume changes. Yours is obviously being picked up and amplified by the camera, mine sings too but I can't really hear it unless I have the fairing mounted.

I was interested enough to check the Mobius user manual/web page. Now I want one too but there doesn't seem to be any option to do anything with the Audio except turn it On or Off. There a slough of Video options, what else can you expect from a camera for RC Modelers.

I did see an option to add an external mic to the camera. You could add a boom mic for inside your helmet out of the wind or use a Bluetooth transmitter for a wireless mic:-

Youtube: Mobius Camera with External Mic by 12Radius


Or you could tape over the hole with earplug foam.

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I actually bought the Mobius for my quadcopter, but I haven't flown it in a while. I was getting tired of replacing broken parts. It's a good thing I can ride a motorcycle better than I can fly a quad.

That little camera is actually pretty cool. It's got a bunch of different modes you can put it in, including a looping video mode like the po-lice use. I can mount it to the windshield in my jeep, and connect it to external power, and it will sit there and provide a continuous stream of evidence.

The only thing I can figure on the camera helmet is that it's got kind of a flat surface on the front of the mount, and that may have been deflecting the air up and over the camera. Or maybe it does have some internal wiring to compensate. It would be cool to have an external mic inside my helmet. Then you could hear my running commentary - like the big "OOOPS!" I let out when I saw the sheriff cresting the hill in front of me yesterday.

I noticed the cam chain singing too. I don't hear it when I'm riding, but the camera is picking it up. I just went out and took a few pics, and I noticed that the clutch cable is laying up against the bar mount, so maybe that's transmitting some sound. I'll try a little insulation around the cable and see if that dampens it. And a little piece of scotch tape over the mic as Phil suggested for the wind noise.

This is how the camera is mounted, using a handlebar ball mount, the 5.25" extension, and the camera ball mount with the mobius mount attached. It's actually kind of cool the way it mounts - I can pop the camera right out of it so I can take it with me and I don't have to worry about somebody copping it. Probably be wise to take the camera mount too, but with the mobius you can't really aim it since there's no monitor on it. And since I've got it adjusted for the shot I want I've just been taking my chances leaving the mount in place.





And this is the innertube shock mount for the handlebar. You can see how the clutch cable is laying up against the plastic part of the handlebar mount between the shock mounting and the extension, so maybe a little rubber around that will help with the cam chain noise.



And this is my old brain bucket. I don't like riding a motorcycle with a skydiving helmet since they're not even close to being DOT rated. They'll protect your head if somebody spins around and kicks you in the noggin, or you bump your head on the aircraft on your way out, but they're not really made to take much of an impact. Usually, if you get a REALLY hard impact when you're skydiving it's your last, and a helmet won't do much for you.

[3Phase]

That is one heck of a camera arm! It looks like a backhoe, you could dig trenches and swimming pools with it!

You have to be careful with dash cams. Unless it has a smart, automatic trouble sensor to tell the camera when to record the good stuff and when it should stop, a dash-cam is pretty much a petard-cam and the fifteen seconds of helpful video gets lost after watching the other four-and-a-half-hours of video on the loop. I still want one! I'll have to figure out how to water-proof it and build an automatic mute circuit for the mic in case I start singing:
"The moral of
the story is clear:
Instead of bourbon
stick to beer!"


Looking at your camera setup, the same kind of thing happens with a fairing but I think the chain/tensioner sound is reflected off of the instrument glass that's aimed right at the camera mount.

Personally I like the sound, it tells me that the cam chain is happy. If it ever changes I'll know it's not happy and I need to do something to cheer it up before it stops and I have to walk to the nearest U-Haul office -- again.

Your skydiving helmet looks like my first Bell helmet from back in the '70s but with a camera mount on top. I still have it somewhere, it has my name and (former) address stenciled inside so 'they' would know who I was and where I lived.

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[dbeardslee]

That is one heck of a camera arm! It looks like a backhoe, you could dig trenches and swimming pools with it!

You have to be careful with dash cams. Unless it has a smart, automatic trouble sensor to tell the camera when to record the good stuff and when it should stop, a dash-cam is pretty much a petard-cam and the fifteen seconds of helpful video gets lost after watching the other four-and-a-half-hours of video on the loop. I still want one! I'll have to figure out how to water-proof it and build an automatic mute circuit for the mic in case I start singing:
"The moral of
the story is clear:
Instead of bourbon
stick to beer!"


Looking at your camera setup, the same kind of thing happens with a fairing but I think the chain/tensioner sound is reflected off of the instrument glass that's aimed right at the camera mount.

Personally I like the sound, it tells me that the cam chain is happy. If it ever changes I'll know it's not happy and I need to do something to cheer it up before it stops and I have to walk to the nearest U-Haul office -- again.

Your skydiving helmet looks like my first Bell helmet from back in the '70s but with a camera mount on top. I still have it somewhere, it has my name and (former) address stenciled inside so 'they' would know who I was and where I lived.

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I'm likin' that mount - definitely does the trick.

They actually sell a little camera condom for the Mobius for waterproofing. I don't think you'd want to go scuba diving with it, but it'll keep the rain out. I hear you on the video petard. They'd have to dig through mine to find the video where I wasn't committing infractions. Automatic mute would definitely come in handy... especially with my voice.

That helmet kind of looks like a motorcycle helmet, but it's waaaay smaller. My other helmet has a full face flip down visor, my nose would almost touch the visor, and I coudn't wear glasses under it, if that gives you any idea.

Here's a pic with my motorcycle helmet for size comparison.

[dbeardslee]

I think I figured out why I don't notice any cam chain noise when I'm riding, but the camera does. I think it's because the camera isn't wearing a helmet.

I just finished installing the upper front SS brake line (since the one that came with the kit was too short, and they had to send me one that's longer), and when I got finished I took a little spin around the block to see how they felt. Since I wasn't going very far nor very fast I didn't wear a helmet, and I could hear the cam chain singing. Evidently if you cover up your ears it affects your sense of hearing. Who knew?!!!

I'm not worried about it, though. The cam chain was brand new about 4-5K miles ago, and I've got a ratcheting ACCT on it. I think I'll adopt you method, Scott, and just tune it out unless the sound changes.

[3Phase]

Lol! Yeah if you cover your ears (or turn up the stereo) all kinds of sounds go away!

You're right about that skydiving helmet, it looks sort of like my old football helmet but mit der coal skuttle like the 'new' .mil Kevlar.

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