xs650 or xs1100???

[DGXSER]

My best guess is there is some dirt or debris on the VIN that makes it look like 2FO instead of 4RO. The 2FO is an XS650 VIN, but that is not an XS650 or an XJ650.

Worst case scenario is someone altered the VIN as they only had a title to an XS650.

[old_skool]

My best guess is there is some dirt or debris on the VIN that makes it look like 2FO instead of 4RO. The 2FO is an XS650 VIN, but that is not an XS650 or an XJ650.

Worst case scenario is someone altered the VIN as they only had a title to an XS650.

You'd never get away with that in Ohio, you might be able to mix and match same cc frames but the Ohio State patrol does random inspections on bikes ( a lot of theft here) and they go over every detail on registration and vins and such, likely to get a bike confiscated. It's one thing to put a motor from one bike into another frame, but not try and pass off a bike as a whole other animal. Not saying any of this was done, just commenting on the possibility.

[DGXSER]

It could be done in Ohio. Again, not saying it has happened on this bike.

But....if you wanted to say file down the downtube to eliminate the stamped numbers and then use a good punch set to re-stamp the numbers to match a title you have....well...how many LEOs know the difference between an XS1100 and an XS650 or an XJ650? In Ohio, engine numbers are never checked when you bring in a vehicle from out of state, let alone in state checks.

[motoman]

Well, may as well and jump in on the guess'in. Looks like he's got a 79Special......why 79?.....can't be 81(no slotted rotors and no black circle recesses in side covers, and alot more). Not an 80Special(no slotted rotors again, and alot more). See it does have the Jardine 'sketti' pipes........and Jardine muffs. A 79Special it is......and I'm stickin' to it.

[old_skool]

Well, may as well and jump in on the guess'in. Looks like he's got a 79Special......why 79?.....can't be 81(no slotted rotors and no black circle recesses in side covers, and alot more). Not an 80Special(no slotted rotors again, and alot more). See it does have the Jardine 'sketti' pipes........and Jardine muffs. A 79Special it is......and I'm stickin' to it.

Then it has the wrong frame, 79's didn't have the front frame mounted reflectors


Frankencycle

[natemoen]

how many LEOs know the difference between an XS1100 and an XS650 or an XJ650?

I do, I do!!!

[old_skool]

I do, I do!!!

seeeeee, and it's not the local Leo's but the state cops who are pretty knowledgeable in this area as they do regular vehicle inspections, not just commercial, and you never know who might be a MC enthusiast.

[Kingxs]

the numbers are off of the Frame neck (# on the first post)and motor im thinking it may be a shady deal if you know what i mean. i just need to know due to parts reasons. i picked it up in a trade for a laptop and have always loved the midnight's. but i do have title which has that same number.

[old_skool]

the numbers are off of the Frame neck (# on the first post)and motor im thinking it may be a shady deal if you know what i mean. i just need to know due to parts reasons. i picked it up in a trade for a laptop and have always loved the midnight's. but i do have title which has that same number.

what does the title say it is?

[Kingxs]

its left blank just says its a 1979 yama mc thats it no model no weight

[DGXSER]

Well, it seems it would be tough to change the engine numbers, but perhaps the same thing was done there. Is it a plate that has been attached or can you clearly see the numbers are stamped into the engine case itself?

On the frame neck, there is a sticker on one side of the neck, and on the other side the numbers are stamped into the metal. IF all of those match that 2FO number, something is not correct here.

It is definitely an XS1100 Special model. I am not savy enough on the frames to guess if is 79, 80, or 81. It obviously has been put together from more than one bike IMO. The seat grab bar is definitely 80-81 Special, the rear tail light mounted up high is 80-81. And those yellow reflectors were on the 81, but not the 80. However, the left side cover is not stock to any XS11 I know of, no locking tab area.

How far does the speedo go, 160 MPH or 85 MPH?

[Kingxs]

its not a plate it is stamped in on frame and motor with no sticker and it only goes to 85

[DGXSER]

Ok, and I looked closer at the pic and you do have slots in the brake rotors, so I still think it is a 4RO machine. Look at the TCI, the black box under the seat. see if it has a 2H7 stamped into it, or if it has a yellow tag on it or is otherwise marked with a 4RO.

[Schming]

Nah...

Well, may as well and jump in on the guess'in. Looks like he's got a 79Special......why 79?.....can't be 81(no slotted rotors and no black circle recesses in side covers, and alot more). Not an 80Special(no slotted rotors again, and alot more). See it does have the Jardine 'sketti' pipes........and Jardine muffs. A 79Special it is......and I'm stickin' to it.

...not a '79.

In the first pic the slots in the front rotor can be seen at 4 and 6 o'clock

Also no kick start shaft.

I'm thinking '80 SG.

[Kingxs]

Ok, and I looked closer at the pic and you do have slots in the brake rotors, so I still think it is a 4RO machine. Look at the TCI, the black box under the seat. see if it has a 2H7 stamped into it, or if it has a yellow tag on it or is otherwise marked with a 4RO.

2h7 on box