I'm having a charging issue with my xj. I ordered some new brushes for the alternator and I was trying to clean the copper plate they ride on. With the cover off I started the engine and was cleaning the grime off by lightly touching it with 1500 grit sand paper. Well apparently there is a plug in the bottom of the case that is held in by the cover. The bike ran for about 30 seconeds before the plug flew out at mach 9 and was followed by a blast of motor oil.luckily I was sitting in a folding chair and not on the floor.i quickly shut her off the began to hunt the plug that came out like a missle. I found it about 12 feet away and out it back in. lesson learned.
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mate, dont feel to bad
ur not the 1st person to do that.pete
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I have a saying "I like to learn from other peoples mistakes, keeps me from making them myself". This is one of those, if I had not read about it a few time sover the years on this forum I would never had thought that could happen.
Glad it was just an inconvenience more than a "What happens when you let your bike run for ten minutes with no oil cause its all over the garage floor?" threads.Life is what happens while your planning everything else!
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Originally posted by XJfan1 View PostI'm having a charging issue with my xj. I ordered some new brushes for the alternator and I was trying to clean the copper plate they ride on. With the cover off I started the engine and was cleaning the grime off by lightly touching it with 1500 grit sand paper. .
Here is another lesson that you may or may not have learned.
Soft materials can get sharp, abrasive particles imbedded in them.
Copper slip rings are soft.
Abrasive paper particles are hard and, well, abrasive.
When you use sand paper in copper, the particles can get imbedded in the copper.
Now you have what is called a lap.
Laps are used to grind things.
Carbon brushes don't last long when run against a lap.
Depending on the type of "sandpaper" you are using, the particles may or may not be electrically conductive. Garnet paper, true "sand" paper, is not conductive. Wet or dry usually has aluminum oxide grit, which is. This leads to arcing at the interface.
Does the fact that you are looking for a stator have anything to do with your method of cleaning the slip rings?
A rubber eraser is the preferred method for cleaning the slip rings.
That's the lesson for today. CZ
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Thanks Cap
Once again your years of "experience" will save me from making a mistake down the road.
Glad you are here.
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How long did it take you to find the plug??? Mine took at least 2 days"If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by CaptonZap View PostHowdy,
Here is another lesson that you may or may not have learned.
Soft materials can get sharp, abrasive particles imbedded in them.
Copper slip rings are soft.
Abrasive paper particles are hard and, well, abrasive.
When you use sand paper in copper, the particles can get imbedded in the copper.
Now you have what is called a lap.
Laps are used to grind things.
Carbon brushes don't last long when run against a lap.
Depending on the type of "sandpaper" you are using, the particles may or may not be electrically conductive. Garnet paper, true "sand" paper, is not conductive. Wet or dry usually has aluminum oxide grit, which is. This leads to arcing at the interface.
Does the fact that you are looking for a stator have anything to do with your method of cleaning the slip rings?
A rubber eraser is the preferred method for cleaning the slip rings.
That's the lesson for today. CZ
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should i have continuity between the inner and outer slip ring? if i put a leed on each ring i get nothing.
These folks can help: www.customrewind.com
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