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    when u have jets larger in the 2 and 3 cyclinder and smaller ione in the 1 and 4? is it called jet laddering? im tring to find info on why and pros and cons on it...
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    No pros or cons really............air cooled and inner two cyl. run a bit hotter causing them to run a bit leaner so couple steps richer feeding those two cyls. compensate some for that........ some set thier carbs up like that........ some don't.
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    • #3
      That was done on the later '80-up bikes because the factory jetting was pretty lean for emissions purposes and the motors ran a bit hotter. As motoman said, they increased the jets on the two inner cylinders to compensate for this. There's no real performance advantage...
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      • #4
        Having owned two 81 models now, and opened up more than a few carbs, I have yet to find any still jetted like that. And I have never done so myself. All the carbs I have worked on worked excellent on every bike to date.

        Like stated, it was a way to give added cooling to the inner cylinders due to the richer mix. None of my engines have ever shown a lean condition in the inner cylinders. HTH
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        • #5
          IIRC, Yamaha stopped doing this after a few years. They probably had good reason to.
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          • #6
            It actually started with the 79 specials. While the 137.5 jets were on all carbs, 2 & 3 had emulsion tubes with less side holes to effectively reduce the air mixture / increase the fuel to air ratio for inner cyl cooling. Later specials did this with larger jets in 2&3.

            The idea behind this was that the standards would see more cruising miles and the specials would see more boulevard miles. Basically proved to be pretty irrelevant .
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