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  • #16
    Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
    A bit of Brit trivia...ofc they/Brits will probably know the origin of the left side driving, but perhaps many of us YANKS might NOT know....so here it is!

    It started during the Midieval period when folks...specifically KNIGHTS were on horseback. Folks were ALL right handed since being LEFT handed was would have made you in the DEVIL's legion! It's tough to shake right hands ACROSS your horse and waiste to the left side, so riding up on the left side, right hand to right hand permitted easy handshaking and such!

    An aside story....military saluting came from the action of the KNIGHTS raising their VISORS to show their eyes.
    T.C.
    Hi TC,
    what we were taught in school was that Brits rode on the left, sword arm to sword arm, to better fight an oncoming enemy.
    OTOH the cowardly French rode on the right, shield arm to shield arm, to better avoid the oncoming enemy's sword.
    Fred Hill, S'toon
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    • #17
      Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
      Hi TC,
      what we were taught in school was that Brits rode on the left, sword arm to sword arm, to better fight an oncoming enemy.
      OTOH the cowardly French rode on the right, shield arm to shield arm, to better avoid the oncoming enemy's sword.
      That's the history I was taught too..
      1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
      2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

      Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

      "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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      • #18
        See and here I figured that down in NZ and Aussie land you drove on the opposite side from us due to the equator shift.

        Kind of like the drain swirling backwards.
        Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

        When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

        81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
        80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


        Previously owned
        93 GSX600F
        80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
        81 XS1100 Special
        81 CB750 C
        80 CB750 C
        78 XS750

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        • #19
          Originally posted by fredintoon View Post
          Hi TC,
          what we were taught in school was that Brits rode on the left, sword arm to sword arm, to better fight an oncoming enemy.
          OTOH the cowardly French rode on the right, shield arm to shield arm, to better avoid the oncoming enemy's sword.
          I was always taught that it had to do with the weapon of choice at the time of driving habits being formed for the country in large part, as the U.S. was pretty much formed after the advent of the pistol which works best from right to left rather than left to right like a sword.
          Cy

          1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
          Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
          Vetter Windjammer IV
          Vetter hard bags & Trunk
          OEM Luggage Rack
          Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
          Spade Fuse Box
          Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
          750 FD Mod
          TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
          XJ1100 Front Footpegs
          XJ1100 Shocks

          I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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          • #20
            So then, why are railroad tracks at the distance they are apart?
            Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

            When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

            81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
            80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


            Previously owned
            93 GSX600F
            80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
            81 XS1100 Special
            81 CB750 C
            80 CB750 C
            78 XS750

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            • #21
              I think you use the same gauge for railway tracks in the US as the UK which is called standard gauge 4' 8 1/2" and was the gauge set out by George Stephenson the grand daddy of the stream train.
              Rob
              XS Eleven SF
              Could this be the finest Triumph Bonneville ever built ?
              (Cycle January 1979)

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              • #22
                Yes, but why did they settle on that distance?.............
                Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                Previously owned
                93 GSX600F
                80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                81 XS1100 Special
                81 CB750 C
                80 CB750 C
                78 XS750

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                • #23
                  IIRC it had to do with that being adopted by the major railroads to lower cost of building rolling stock, and quickly became the standard because they all wanted to be able to connect their rails to each other so that a train could go longer distances without having to unload everything and put it on another train at each change to another rail line.

                  I suspect them being the same on both sides of the pond has to do with the fact that we sold a LOT of steam locomotives to england and europe as well.

                  Even know there is still a good bit of non-standard stuff out there, but it's usually narrow guage stuff because of clearance issues on the right of way for the rails. Anything narrower than standard guage as I understand loses a lot of stability and carrying capacity and anything large doesn't really gain much but takes more land, and the railroads have to own the land they travel on, unlike any other form of transportation.
                  Cy

                  1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                  Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                  Vetter Windjammer IV
                  Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                  OEM Luggage Rack
                  Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                  Spade Fuse Box
                  Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                  750 FD Mod
                  TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                  XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                  XJ1100 Shocks

                  I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                  • #24
                    My understanding is that when they first started the railroad, they werepulling the carts down the track with horses and long story short (cause I do not recall it) the tracks are just the width of two horses azzes to match up with the wheels on a cart. Or somethign along those lines.
                    Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

                    When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

                    81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
                    80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


                    Previously owned
                    93 GSX600F
                    80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
                    81 XS1100 Special
                    81 CB750 C
                    80 CB750 C
                    78 XS750

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                    • #25
                      Horses ass's do have a lot to do with it, in the fact that the wheels on a Roman chariot were 4' 8" apart because that was the right width for two horses to fit side by side, so this became the standard gauge for cartmakers as the wheels needed to fit the ruts in the road made by the romans. So moving on a few hundred years when Stephenson started to experiment with railways his rolling stock was adpated from horse drawn carts, and as it was British engineers who first started to build American railroads this gauge was transfered across the pond.
                      Rob
                      XS Eleven SF
                      Could this be the finest Triumph Bonneville ever built ?
                      (Cycle January 1979)

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