Vindication at last!

[cueball]

Some people (not mentioning Ivan) have too much time on their hands

[oseaghdha]

Whoops, sorry.
9460989493264512000

Math is hard.

[Wildkat]

Some people (not mentioning Ivan) have too much time on their hands

No doubt! Think they'd let me borrow some of it? I seem to keep running out...
lol



By the way, Doug... considering I never addressed your original post... I'll get back to that...
Way to go!
Makes you feel good, doesn't it?

Want to really tick somebody off? Get a jump off the line in a minivan...
(I LOVE the Mom-mobile... she's a sleeper)
lol

[Ivan]

Gosh Ivan... I thought it was...

1 lightyear = 9,460,528,405,000,000,000 millimeters

Give or take an inch

It really depends on your definition of a year. Since the measurement I quoted was from the shortest possible year, it should be suitable for all calculations, with a more conservative error. I am guessing your conversions are from a "standard" year, or from a leap year. Personally, I wouldn't want to overshoot my destination by a day or more's worth of lightspeed travel per light year. Considering the nearest viable solar system is Epsilon Eridani at 10.5 LY, that would translate to a U-turn of almost a month.

Therefore, an intergalactic standard "light year" needs to be defined. I vote that it be the distance light travels during 31,556,926 seconds. But, since time is distorted in gravitational fields, we should have a way to define a second that is not dependent on a constant gravitational field. The International System of Units states that is "equal to the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium-133 atom". The problem I have with this, is that I am not aware of any current publicly attainable device that can measure more than 9 gigahertz, so for civilian travel, this is out of the question. Hopefully this will change in the near future. Even at that, the electronic devices needed to measure time this accurately would have to be shielded from any form of gravity. Even the universal gravitation from a spec of dust could throw the calculation off enough to plant you in the middle of a supernova, instead of in low orbit around the desired planet.

So, is there a gravity independent way to tell time? I am sure there is, but I haven't found it yet. One more thing to think about while I am riding the 8.536e-10 LY to the next rally.

[oseaghdha]

A year is generally accepted to be 365.26 days in length. Or more exactly 365.256366 days.

And time is just a construct humans invented to make the world rational.

There is no "Absolute Time", so a year is whatever we say it is.

[dbeardslee]

And I thought I was anal retentive - you guys are raising it to an art form .

Kat - yes it did feel good. Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you tool around in a hot-rod minivan. You go, girl .

[BigDick]

That settles it

It really depends on your definition of a year. Since the measurement I quoted was from the shortest possible year, it should be suitable for all calculations, with a more conservative error. I am guessing your conversions are from a "standard" year, or from a leap year. Personally, I wouldn't want to overshoot my destination by a day or more's worth of lightspeed travel per light year. Considering the nearest viable solar system is Epsilon Eridani at 10.5 LY, that would translate to a U-turn of almost a month.

Therefore, an intergalactic standard "light year" needs to be defined. I vote that it be the distance light travels during 31,556,926 seconds. But, since time is distorted in gravitational fields, we should have a way to define a second that is not dependent on a constant gravitational field. The International System of Units states that is "equal to the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium-133 atom". The problem I have with this, is that I am not aware of any current publicly attainable device that can measure more than 9 gigahertz, so for civilian travel, this is out of the question. Hopefully this will change in the near future. Even at that, the electronic devices needed to measure time this accurately would have to be shielded from any form of gravity. Even the universal gravitation from a spec of dust could throw the calculation off enough to plant you in the middle of a supernova, instead of in low orbit around the desired planet.

So, is there a gravity independent way to tell time? I am sure there is, but I haven't found it yet. One more thing to think about while I am riding the 8.536e-10 LY to the next rally.

Ivan has lost his mind, we need an intervention rally/run to go kidnap him, then tie his wheelchair to the back of an xs and pull him for a ride.

[Wildkat]

It really depends on your definition of a year.

In terms of how much time I need in a day or watching my kids grow up? they are MUCH shorter... In terms of waiting for certain times to come around.. WAY too long... so I guess time is completely subjective...

One more thing to think about while I am riding the 8.536e-10 LY to the next rally.

So what's the equivalent stardate for that?

And I thought I was anal retentive

I just can't bring myself to say it, Doug...
lol

you guys are raising it to an art form

Take pride in everything you do...

Kat - yes it did feel good. Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you tool around in a hot-rod minivan. You go, girl .

Yep... my favorite are the sportscars or the bubbas in the steroid charged pick-ups... You can tell by the way they speed past me after I get the jump on them that it eats at their masculinity to have been passed by a female... in a minivan... I know they will probably be faster than me in the long run... but I'm not looking for top end... just low end torque... Top end gets too much attention from the LEOs... lol

Ivan has lost his mind, we need an intervention rally/run to go kidnap him, then tie his wheelchair to the back of an xs and pull him for a ride.

Why did I just have a vision of a chariot? We need to get Ivan a Roman helmet... and some reigns...

[cueball]

Chariots anyone

Maybe a pith helmet and a whip with the local snotters pulling the chariot

[ozlad]

Being of the vintage where I had half imperial schooling and half metric,IMHO 12 inches sounds better than 300mm?????? C'on someone was bound to go there

[cueball]

Bragging ?

We don't need to know the size of your favourite toy

[dbeardslee]

We don't need to know the size of your favourite toy

I sure hope that toy's not made out of rubber.

[cueball]

Toys

Now that REALLY is something we don't need to know

[trbig]

IMHO 12 inches sounds better than 300mm??????

If you went to prison, NEITHER would sound very promising if bunked with a big huge cellmate named Bubba Johnson...


Tod