Patriotism

[jmnjrpa]

Hey Deny,
You may have elected him but I did not! I knew better and you will soon. He has his own agenda and it does not include seeing after your welfare. We are so attuned (read PC) to giving everyone the right to vote we even allow incarcerated mental (read padded walls) people the right to eliminate intellegent votes. Our political arena is so corrupt that I am hard put to name a GOOD president without going back a century or so. Blow out Congress and lets start again!! Thank you and I will keep my rights including the right to speak regardless of the consequences. Put you fingers in your ears; it works for Obama.

[egleaves]

I strongly support freedom of speech!!! If it is desired by our members to maintain this, can we PLEASE have a separate area for this to take place? I truly am offended by these attacks!

Let me see.... last time I checked,

Members Lounge
This is the place for all of the (civil-toned) off-topic chatter that doesn't belong in the other areas.

Correct, this IS the other area you speak of meant for discussions not necessarily related to motorcycles.

[Trainzz]

Once Again

Sigh..........................................

[Pat Kelly]

You don't have to read every thread or post on here. I don't like politics and I only reads these threads to see how long it takes to spiral down to name-calling. This one got there fairly quickly.
Reading threads on politics is like rubber-necking a car accident.

(Have I now offended the rubber-necks?)

Anyone who wants to be President is too arrogant for the job. The President should be appointed by the people, not campain for the job.

[tw1980]

I like the political threads. I just can't figure out why it's taking everyone so long to figure out I'm the one that is right all the time.LOL Terry

[trbig]

(Have I now offended the rubber-necks?)

Now listen here ya dang... Oops.. Never mind, Pat. I thought you said Rednecks..

I worked several years on an ambulance. I would see some pretty gruesome wrecks... and the people stopping traffic so they could "Have a look".. then the looks of horror on their faces when they DID actually see what they were looking for... pretty hilarious. Of course, then we'd get the calls from these same people that we didn't cover up the bodies sufficiently.. blah blah.

If you think about all of this.. I think the same thing kind of applies here.


Tod

[DenyP]

Apologies to everyone!

I usually do not allow myself to go there under any circumstances. My apologies to all offended or annoyed. I was already pissed off when I came on line with more then a few too many beers. Next time I will just beat my head against a tree or something. So does anyone know how to shave 29.5mm valve shims down to the 29 our bikes use???

Deny

[Bigfoot]

Accepted

I have also been guilty of crossing the line before. Nice to see that you are man enough to apologize. And if I offended anyone, I apologize as well. That was not my intention.

[Guy_b_g]

I'm the one who said "left wing commie liberal" and...."right wing redneck" to be fair handed.

Maybe I'm wrong and this stuff doesn't need to go to a different forum...it does get old having to sort thru political bashing to open up something of a more friendly nature...and it would be handy to have this stuff in a seperate forum.

That way when I feel like kicking my dog or punching myself in the eye, I'll know exactly where to go for some real sadomasochism, and I won't have to hunt for it.

[Ralphy]

Chill out yanks! if ya can't stand the heat, Get out of the kictchen. personaly I wouldn't give you two bob for any of the world leaders

[b.walker5]

Politics

how to loose friends and influence people !

[cueball]

At least the pres you have now can "walk and talk" at he same time.

[trbig]

At least the pres you have now can "walk and talk" at he same time

Yup... out of BOTH sides of his mouth... lol.

Tod

[mstic2000]

If you can't play nicely, kids... you're going to have to stand in time out...

I do get carried away from time to time but I do like to stur up some sheet every once in awhile. It's just in my nature.....

Keeps me from (yawn) fallin asleep.

[BobE]

Just A Suggestion To This Issue...

Just a suggestion...i know I haven't been here in a while but please allow me to share some experience from my club's forum, The Venturers...

We had the same problems with political discussions a few years back. it got pretty heated at times and caused a few members to outright quit because of some of the incendiary statements made. However, because many of our members have known each other for years, sometimes motorcycle talk just gets redundant and sometimes current events makes friends want to discuss something different. Sooo, here's what we did to resolve the issue...

We created a topic area where folks who wanted to participate in it had to request access in writing (E-Mail to the assigned Forum moderator). In doing so they were informed that discussions may be raw and inflammatory and they were going in at their own risk and we moderators didn't want to hear the complaints. Those who didn't wish to see such carnage simply didn't sign up for access to it. The only rules we had were no personal attacks of a malicious nature against other members nor pornographic material posted (The Venturers IS a family site, after all...).

As a result, the rest of the forum has been very friendly and civil and no one has quit because of silly disagreements. All non-motorcycle frustration is handled there and stays out of the rest of the place.

it has worked quite well! I don't know if this forum can be tailored like that as it's a different engine than ours, but it worked for us!