Another Dumb Question

[blue giant]

I've done some searching and have yet to find an answer.

Can a Canadian citizen with an M1 (learners permit) license drive in the USA?

Thanks,

Paul

[CatatonicBug]

I can't say this with complete certainty, but generally, the rule is that if you are legal to drive in the place you are coming FROM, you are legal to drive wherever you are going TO, for a limited amount of time.

[cywelchjr]

I would suggest checking with the state that you intend to drive in. I know you would be good with an actual license, but I'm not sure about a learner's permit. I would expect that a learner's permit would not be usable in most states (if in any) but this is just an educated guess.

[fredintoon]

- - Can a Canadian citizen with an M1 (learners permit) license drive in the USA? - - - Paul

Hi Paul,
my nephew toured in the US on my Manitoba registered bike with a British learners licence and had no problem, but then, nobody pulled him over.
I would guess that a Canadian learner's permit would be fine but the licence-holder would be bound by the same limitations there (No major highways, not after dark etc.) as pertained in his home province.

[fredintoon]

- - Can a Canadian citizen with an M1 (learners permit) license drive in the USA? - - - Paul

Hi Paul,
my nephew toured in the US on my Manitoba registered bike with a British learners licence and had no problem, but then, nobody pulled him over.
I would guess that a Canadian learner's permit would be fine but the licence-holder would be bound by the same limitations there (No major highways, not after dark etc.) as pertained in his home province. I'd be more concerned about having adequate insurance.

[olebiker]

Paul MTC should know and I do mean should not will.

[CatatonicBug]

I just talked to my sister, who happens to be a cop in California. She said that if she was to pull over a rider with a Canadian permit, she wouldn't even be able to run it through her computer to see if it was valid. However, the law states that you are bound by the restrictions of the country you came FROM, for a period of 30 days. After that, you have to get a local license/permit. So, yes, he could ride here, but not on the freeways, not at night, and with no passenger.

[blue giant]

Thanks!

Based on what info I can find, or lack of it, nowhere does it say he can't.

Paul

[madmax-im]

It has always been my understanding that a person with a driver's permit can only operate their vehicle in the presence of another licensed driver...so they would need to be accompanied....further the fully licensed driver is responsible for the actions of the permit holder...that means checking to make sure they bring all the proper paperwork,insurance etc...in addition to their ability to safely operate said vehicle.

[cywelchjr]

Every MC permit I have read/heard about allows for without another licensed driver but generally disallows carrying a passenger, riding on the freeway and riding after dark. I would guess that is because there would be no way another person could affect anything the rider is doing in any positive manner.

[fredintoon]

- - and then there's really dumb.

Are there not some States in the US that require a motorcyclist on a learner permit to be followed by another motorcycle ridden by a person with a full licence?
This seems to me to be so effin' stupid that nobody could possibly make it up.
If it's true, would a person on a learner's permit from another State not having this asinine requirement be OK to ride alone, as 'bug's sister sez the issuing State's laws apply?

[DGXSER]

Fred,

I only know thw law in Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky regarding Learner's permits, and none of them require that fubard requirement. All of them require a helmet and no passenger or after dark or highway with a learners permit. I know Ohio requires a helmet for driver and any passenger for the first year after getting your endorsement.

[CatatonicBug]

Are there not some States in the US that require a motorcyclist on a learner permit to be followed by another motorcycle ridden by a person with a full licence?
This seems to me to be so effin' stupid that nobody could possibly make it up.
If it's true, would a person on a learner's permit from another State not having this asinine requirement be OK to ride alone, as 'bug's sister sez the issuing State's laws apply?

I don't think that's a requirement anywhere. The law about being accompanied by a licensed driver only applies to cages, AFAIK. I know that you can't get a MC license here in MO without already having a Cage license, so I guess that takes care of the requirement.

[madmax-im]

To clarify my earlier post...the facts as i stated were in relation to driving a cage...and while you can in fact ride a mc on a learner's permit unescorted...you must first obtain the cage license and then get the mc endorsement...so basically in NJ a new driver with a learner's permit cannot drive unaccompanied and must be in the presence of a legally licensed driver...catch 22 and that licensed driver is responsible to make sure the learner has their permit and the cage has the proper Ins. and registration

[freebird01752]

I know in Mass if you have a learners permit you can't ride at night, no passenger, no hi-way and is only good in Mass.

Steve