2 Strokes, Old Verses New Technology

[Special Ed]

I think my second favorite bike has to have been my X6 Suzuki. Man, what a haulin' 250! Few bikes could keep up with it from 0 to 60. After that the bigger bikes had the edge, for sure. One of the first 2 strokes to feature an oil tank and metered oil injection: I didn't miss mixing the oil at all!
The British "Scott" 500 twin 2 stroke featured water cooling way back in the 20's, if I'm not mistaken.
Special Ed

[motoman]

2-strokes

The first pic of the 125 elsinore is what I raced in a 250 back in '76 in the 250 expert class. Alot of short-shifting as the the power-band flattened quickly. Now race one of the newer YZ250's and normally not a thought bout radiator problems and have dumped it hard many a time. Many of the '08 models now use EFI with fuel pump in the tank.

[Shuriken]

I test rode a CR480 years ago. It would have been my first bike. Thank goodness I had the smarts to walk away from that old pile of horsepower. I rode it around the block and walked away.

Now, having a lot of riding experience, I wish I had it - they only wanted like $500 bucks for it. But talk about insane power..... I can only imagine what a modern 500 would do...

Still have a 73/74 Suzuki TC125. Oil injection. Dual range transmission. Great bike. Usually starts on the first kick every time.

[rpgoerlich]

Maintenance was definetely easier on the old 2 strokes. Premix was their biggest downfall. Luved that oil injection when it arrived.

First bike was a Zuk TC120 with the same Dual range.
Later bought a 72 Kaw 175(F7) then an 250(F8) Rotory valves were a little more work on the repair side. Traded the F8 for a TM250 Zuk and raced it on the ice, wish I still had it!

[Mathh]

Water cooled two strokes are not new....I remember hearing about a Suzuki 750cc triple water cooled two stroke, the "Water Buffalo" as I remember.

mmmm...nice....



but i like these most! :

[fredintoon]

Water cooled two strokes are not new....I remember hearing about a Suzuki 750cc triple water cooled two stroke, the "Water Buffalo" as I remember. I think someone else made a liquid cooled two stroke, can't remember who though. at least that's what I remember. have a nice day and ride safe

Hi Lorax,
Scott 500 & 600cc water cooled twin 2-strokes. First built ~1912.
Last models mid 1950's. 100/1 mix plus direct oil injection.

[Special Ed]

Hey Mathh...

Is that a list of bikes that you still own or used to own? If the former, thats quite a stable you have there!
SpecialEd

[Mathh]

Is that a list of bikes that you still own or used to own? If the former, thats quite a stable you have there!
SpecialEd

Thanks Ed , and yes, the former. As you grow older you're getting more nostalgic and you want to buy the bikes again you formerly owned. And in case of the classics..they are a better investment than bringing your money to the bank

[yamahansolo]

i don't know much about two strokes but i saw an artile about a snowmobile in popular science mag that was a two and it had gobs of power and was emmisions friendly. it talked a little about the new techknowledge but i don't recall what was different.