150mph cop chase...

[egleaves]

Nice Ivan!

I would love to re-read your post in 20 years and see just how much of that scenario turns out to be a reality.

You may be a prophet.

[Ivan]

I'd bet it is less than 20 years away. I have a buddy from RC flying that works on top secret stuff for a military contractor, in R&D. One of the unclassified things he talked about was a cruise missile that can track underground cables and cell phone signals.

Another one I know of is a portable x-ray type machine. Not sure if it is x-ray tech or not, but the DEA/ATF supposedly have them in certain aircraft, and can scan aircraft coming across the border. Apparantly, it is able to discern the reflected frequencies well enough to tell is the payload is ganja, coke, blow, or just smuggled fruit and fireworks. From what I understand, it has a range in miles, so chances are the scanned aircraft doesn't even know they been caught until the F-16s roll in and escort them.

What really boggles my mind is that the earliest prototype for the F117 flew in the later part of the Viet Nam conflict era. It was called "Have Blue" then. Makes you wonder what they have now that we won't know about for 20-30 years.

TBH, I think the police need all the help they can get. They can be jerks, but the greater part of the time their life is at risk, and that has to make anyone pissy.

[Crazcnuk]

Less than that. It's here now. Only, so far, it's civilian.

They don't need anything on the cops side, except an OBD reader.

The new onboard CPU systems are capable of recording whatever you do, as far as your driving is concerned, and the satellite system can retrieve that info whenever they want.

You don't think GM will use that to void warranties too?

They could actually start mailing tickets within hours of passing the law making it mandatory for Onstar, and similar systems, to report any lawbreaking activities.

[Ivan]

Yeah, I have wondered why the onstar stuff hasn't been used to that effect......yet.

As far as the police needing help, I guess that came out wrong. I meant it as in they have the tech to be able to know if the driver is holding a loaded gun or not before the cop gets out of the car. As far as that goes, they really don't need dogs anymore, if they use the scan tech the ATF supposedly has. I know there are laws about consent and search and seizure here in the US, but they usually only help the guilty.

Although I am not keen on trivial things like speeding tickets, I do think police do a fair job at keeping things safe for most of us. It would be nice if they would quit catching me though.

[planedick]

Street justice

If the cops would quit dishing out street justice when they make an arrest, they wouldn't have half as many trying to hurt them or shoot at them. Every car chase I have witnessed on TV has ended the same way. Eventually the guy lays down on his belly hands out and then 5 or 6 cops run up to him and drop the knees anyplace they can hurt real bad and try to tear his arms off while puttin them behind his back, and if they think they can do it without being seen, punches and kicks are administered also. I don't care what he has done, when he complys with the cops request like that, there should be serious consequences for any cop that administers such "street justice".

[trbig]

They already have some insurance companies that will lower your rate if you let them install a GPS thing that monitors your driving. How long do you think it will take them to make the step to.. "If you disagree to having this monitoring system in your vehicle, you must be a high risk law breaker"

Then the next inevitable step will be.. you HAVE to have one, or nobody will insure you.

Make your 4th and 5th gear run-ups to redline while you can!


Tod

[Montreux_Blue]

I have GPS tracking on my work truck, it sucks! My boss gets an email if I -

1. leave the house after 7 am, even if the job is a block away and a 9 am start!
2. drive faster than 70 mph
3. if I get home before 3:30 pm, even if I started my day at say 5 am!
4. if I move my truck out of the drive way to get my personal truck out "after work hours" and weekends, or move it period after hours.

They like to keep track of us and think that it will make us work our full 8 hours. We have had the trackers for about 3 years now.

[randy]

One of the reasons I don't use Easypass. I only use tolls twice a week, so it really has no impact, but I sure don't want the gov't having info on where i go, when and how fast i get there, never mind them having my credit card / bank info Yikes!

[strippedFJ]

Yep! I can just see all those advanced XS electronics dobbing us in via satellite.

I mean, bugger it all, we not only have to outrun cop cars, radar and radio, we now have to outrun onboard broadband?

Get the feeling the value of Old Skool bikes will only increase as the crotch rocket brigade increasingly get reported by their own bikes

[Crazcnuk]

"Yeah, I have wondered why the onstar stuff hasn't been used to that effect......yet."

Because they want the tech universally aceptedf first. Not enough mfgs put them in, yet.

About cops, you have to understand that most are there because they are cowards and bullies. they don't feel safe unless they are wearing armor and packing heat, and when they are, they feel so tough they want to beat every unarmed person up they can.

They always call the guy in a t-shirt taking on 15 heavily armored cops a 'coward' I think it's the other way around.

Why do you think they can't shoot to 'wound'? Even at 20 ft they are trained to shoot for center of mass because they are sweating and shaking so bad they couldn't hit a barn, otherwise.

I just shake my head at those cop shows (the real ones) where they all pounce on and beat people for no good reason. Haven't figured out why they aren't sued a lot more than they are.

You notice in teh car chase ones, they never show you all the ones that got away, just the 'stupid' ones they actually catch.

[trbig]

LOL...

On that subject. Apparently these cops were roughing up a guy that ran onto the soccer field a little too much. I doubt it.... but MAYBE this cop realizes what it feels like to be in a defenseless position having his azz handed to him? lol. Video is in @ the middle of the page.

Link

Maybe if this happened more... You know, this guy was carrying a sign in both hands.. he was pretty much a lethal threat to these guys right?


Tod

[planedick]

Yeah

Real street justice by the people.... I love it HA HA HA HA HA

[trbig]

"Contempt of Cop" is a very real thing. Read up about it. A lot of them get the attitude of "How DARE he do that to me!" Then when the situation is coming to and end, they can't manage to turn that off and a sort of revenge happens.


Tod

[Jerry]

About cops, you have to understand that most are there because they are cowards and bullies. they don't feel safe unless they are wearing armor and packing heat, and when they are, they feel so tough they want to beat every unarmed person up they can.

You ever work for a Sheriff's Office, as I do? Unless you have first hand information or experience I submitt you are full of sh*t.

The guys and gals I work with are neither cowards or bullies. They are some of the most honest people I know, work hard at treating people with respect and use abnormal restraint in very tough situations. Come into our booking area some time and listen to the profanity and threats aimed at these officers and their families, then put yourself in their shoes. We offer ride-alongs; all you have to do is sign a waiver stating you are willing to take the samre risks the officers do. I suggest you look into your local force and see if they offer something similar, then get some first-hand experience before you shoot your mouth off.

No, they are not saints, but they are doing a job you don't want to do. And yes, there have been cases where a few have acted unprofessionally, illegally, or unethically. Thats a far cry from saying "most are..." and I really take exception to your description of the people I work with.

[Ivan]

Originally posted by Jerry


You ever work for a Sheriff's Office, as I do? Unless you have first hand information or experience I submitt you are full of sh*t.

The guys and gals I work with are neither cowards or bullies. They are some of the most honest people I know, work hard at treating people with respect and use abnormal restraint in very tough situations. Come into our booking area some time and listen to the profanity and threats aimed at these officers and their families, then put yourself in their shoes. We offer ride-alongs; all you have to do is sign a waiver stating you are willing to take the samre risks the officers do. I suggest you look into your local force and see if they offer something similar, then get some first-hand experience before you shoot your mouth off.

No, they are not saints, but they are doing a job you don't want to do. And yes, there have been cases where a few have acted unprofessionally, illegally, or unethically. Thats a far cry from saying "most are..." and I really take exception to your description of the people I work with.

Well, I submit that since you work with them, you see the good side of them.

Far more commonly, the officers which the general public meet on the street, are rude, unethical and most times liars.

Generally the HiPos are professional acting, as are detectives and desk based officers.

Beat cops who the daily driver meets mistake themselves for the judicial branch of the government. How many times have i herd "You were doing 76 but I am only going to write you for 65"? Countless. Either they are lying, being unethical, or they think they have the right to decide if you broke the law, and by how much.

I got booked into a mental hospital for a week because the wife and I were arguing, and I told the officer I didn't want him in my house without a warrant. He said he doesn't need one. He can do a welfare check without entering the premises, and he knows that. I said let me get my wife and kids, and when I turned to open the door, I caught a taser in the back. No warning, nothing. It hurt. It pissed me off. I called him everything I could think of and then he said I was mentally unstable and sent me in.

I have a friend that had his ribs broken because he said "go to hell" to a cop after the cop said "let me see your license and insurance you "fellating homosexual".
(Rude language editted by Prometheus)
The same officer followed me 35 miles out of his jurisdiction one evening and pulled me over. I didn't know it was a city cop, I wasn't speeding, drunk or acting idiotic in any way. He shot twice before leaving his car, and once more at close range. When I handed his ass to him and took his gun away, I found out that disarming an officer is a felony, unless they are drinking on the job and outside their jurisdiction, and are unprovoked.

The town I went to high school in, I bought more pot and coke from the cops than anyone else. Anyone who tried to sell in their turf ended up shooting themselves in the back of the head twice, before lighting their car on fire and tying them self in the trunk to die. That is what the police report one one of them said anyway. Another one got soooo absolutely high that he cut off his own penis and ate it while his hands were tied behind his back, before he died from overdosing on nearly half a kilo of coke.

I could list several hundred other "episodes" I have either been in or witnessed.

Do I think all cops are like this? No. But I would say that there are a lot more like this than you see from the inside. Like I said before, I think, by far and large, they do a fair job at keeping things safe for us. They are necessary, and as I have aged, tend to realize they are under a lot of stress, and probably let a lot of it loose on people who don't deserve it. I tend to be more forgiving of them now days.

Just don't tell someone they are full of **** because their first hand experience doesn't parallel your own. Mine certainly doesn't, and I, quite frankly, don't think you are full of it. I just think you don't see what most of us see.