Have you heard about Ron Paul?

[Incubus]

I don't remember anyone on the left accusing anyone on the right of treason for disagreeing with them about the war. I do remember Ann Coulter's book, though. The vile rhetoric goes both ways. It is sad and disgusting.

Because of my chosen career path I have worked for and with politicians on both sides of the aisle for many years. They paid me for what I do, not for what I believe. Many are well meaning people who say stupid things to please the fringe elements of their parties. It is the fringes, not the mainstream, that are talking loudly for the past few years.

Maybe if more people who are not psychotic voted, then politicians would stop the nonsense. But they don't. Voting is seen by too many as an intrusion, not the incredible right and privilege that it is. For most politicians these days, winning the election is the end, not the beginning. It's like George Will once said of George H.W. Bush - that he ran for president not because he wanted to DO something, but rather because he wanted to BE something.

I have been aware of Ron Paul for many years. I have followed his career pretty closely. I have to say, he isn't near as wacko as he used to be.....

Patrick

[Winterhawk]

Ron Paul is on meet the press Sunday December 23. I think you'll like what he has to say.

Ron had to distance himself from the 9/11 debate for his own political gain. Understandable as he knows the possibilities of it being an inside job is a very real. Ron Paul is usually on www.infowars.com the Alex Jones show once a month.

Ron Paul 2008 JOIN THE REVOLUTION.

[Incubus]

As we contemplate the poison and hate spewed about in politics today, I think we should remember two things:

1. The Nazis were a political party, not a terrorist group or cabal.

2. Adolf Hitler was elected. He did not seize power in a coup.

It can happen again. Vote, people. Don't leave the wackos an open road.

Patrick

[trbig]

It's tough to choose on what is being offered up. It's like a whole basket of rotten fruit. Then you're told to pick the best one. So what ends up happeneing, is you invariably just try to pick the one that's LEAST rotten.... then the one you choose ends up being the worst one down deep that didn't show so bad on the surface.

Ain't I just a big ol' bowl full of cheer?? lol


Tod

[madmax-im]

Originally posted by trbig
It's tough to choose on what is being offered up. It's like a whole basket of rotten fruit. Then you're told to pick the best one. So what ends up happeneing, is you invariably just try to pick the one that's LEAST rotten.... then the one you choose ends up being the worst one down deep that didn't show so bad on the surface.

Ain't I just a big ol' bowl full of cheer?? lol


Tod

Dont feel too bad...after all did you ever really expect some corporate bought and paid for politician and or politics to really solve your problems or the county's for that matteR????..I for one haven't been that naieve since JFK was assasinated back in '63...

[Winterhawk]

Originally posted by trbig
It's tough to choose on what is being offered up. It's like a whole basket of rotten fruit. Then you're told to pick the best one. So what ends up happening, is you invariably just try to pick the one that's LEAST rotten.... then the one you choose ends up being the worst one down deep that didn't show so bad on the surface.

Maybe according to all exit polls and technicians the electronic Diebold voting machines picks the candidate for us using malicious code found is most electronic machines. This lead to the banning of them in 14 states now.

[oseaghdha]

Ron Paul's Blimp

Ron Paul's Blimp in New Jersey

[t3rmin]

Originally posted by MAXIMAN

-He's boring as dirt.

Well I give you he's not as charismatic as some of the slick politician types, and he spends a lot of time on un-sexy topics like monetary policy. But personally I find it refreshing, and the more you dig in, you find out how important and even interesting these topics are. We've been entertained by politicians for long enough -- it's time for substance! ;-)

-I get the feeling he's an "isolationist". As appealing as isolationism is for most of us ..it would be fun to tell the world to "F" off...it simply will not work in todays "small" world.

Nope, he's a non-interventionist. When you really think about it, that's about as far from isolationist as it gets. He wants to have open trade and friendly dialogue with the rest of the world, not alienate them with embargoes, restrictions, meddling, and occupations.

Right now our "free trade" is really micro-managed trade and our "dialogue" is generally control and manipulation and even force. Ron Paul would restore America's tarnished image with the rest of the world and put us front-and-center on the world stage more than ever.

[t3rmin]

Originally posted by madmax-im
If anything is EVER going to be accomplished by our so called political leaders then there has to be some sort of unification of these two camps.

That's Ron Paul, baby! By most estimates I've heard his support is only 1/3 Republican. The rest is Democrat and Independents.

That's a big part of why he doesn't poll well. Fortunately non-Republican Ron Paul supporters are holding their noses and registering GOP in droves so they can vote for their man in the primaries and caucuses. Be prepared for some big surprises in Iowa and New Hampshire.

It's also a big part of why he'd be the ultimate Hillary-beating juggernaut. Only the most dedicated socialist Democrat types can stomach Hillary, but (almost) everybody can identify with Ron Paul's simple message of Liberty!

Of course Ron Paul is one of the last remaining real Republicans, and the "sleeping" GOP public, while still largely fooled, is slowly opening their eyes. See what Reagan, Goldwater, and pre-2000 Bush/Cheney have to say about Ron Paul's message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVHJY-RNSA

[Winterhawk]

[Yamanatic]

Bush (and most living Politicians) elude to the USA being a Democracy; listen to the next Bush speech. I for one, hope the founding fathers saw the US Government as a REPUBLIC; look up the definitions people.

We don't need no-mo stinkin' politicians running the USA - we need some Real World Working Americans running our country. Funny how candidates can produce campaign income in the millions of $$$ without taxes, but the moment they are elected go into the red permanently. Is that how your job/company works?

I calculated where my income from last year went, and over HALF of my wages went to the government. Last time I checked the Stock Market, there was no Democrat or Republican Party option on the board; you have to at least show some promise to get there. Think about What you are voting for and not Who; just don't drop the soap...

Warren the Peon who foots the pork.

[Winterhawk]

What we have here is BU$H's Corporate Fascism.

The end of America as we knew it.

This is why we need a Revolution in our once great Republic.

www.prisonplanet.com
www.infowars.com

[Jerry]

The Presidentcy has assumed powers that were never defined by the Constitution, and Ron Paul is attractive in that he says he will adhere to the Constitution.

I think Paul would have even less of a chance in getting his philosophy - attractive as it is, in many ways - implimented into policy or legislation than some of the other politicians out there. My personal favorite is Joe Biden, who is not likely to break into the top 3, but I can always hope.

BTW, a very good new book now out is "Our Undemocratic Constitution" (subtitle: Where the Constitution Goes Wrong (And How We the People Can Correct It) by Sanford Levinson. Good read if you are at all interested in studying the basic document by which this country is governed.

[Special Ed]

I’m thinking about it. I’m really thinking about it. As you may gather from my chosen “handle,” the concept of liberty (Freedom from political control) is very important to me. However…
Regardless of what a politician may say when he is running for office, once he is elected he gets a visit from a Rockefeller, or some other representative of the ruling elite, who sets him down and explains to him what is really going on.
I agree with the bro who pointed out that we were established as a republic and not a democracy. In fact, our founding fathers used the term “democracy” disparagingly, much like we now use the word “communism,” and with good reason.
I have been a registered Libertarian since 1976. I jumped ship and held my nose to vote for Bush because I thought it was of great importance that Gore was not elected. I’m afraid it was an inconvenient choice.
If I voted on principal I would vote for Ron Paul, knowing full well that at least half of what he is running on he would not be able to accomplish.
I am convinced that the 19th Amendment and the IRS are a fraud It was never ratified by the required number of states. In fact one intrepid researcher who went to the trouble of visiting the state capitol of every state that was in the union in 1917 reports that NONE of them ratified the amendment! We the people are being ripped off bigtime!
But, like I said earlier, JFK bucked the establishment and look what happened to him.
As to my British and Canadian brothers: you are “subjects” and we are citizens. This is a distinction that I cherish. I hope that I don’t have to die for it, but I will if I must.

[t3rmin]

Originally posted by E.Liberty
I’m thinking about it. I’m really thinking about it. As you may gather from my chosen “handle,” the concept of liberty (Freedom from political control) is very important to me. However…
Regardless of what a politician may say when he is running for office, once he is elected he gets a visit from a Rockefeller, or some other representative of the ruling elite, who sets him down and explains to him what is really going on.

Have you heard the Libertarian party's "almost" endorsement of Ron Paul? They sent this email out to their members:
http://unofficial-ronpaul2008blog.bl...ian-party.html

For me, what stands out about Ron Paul is he can't be bought or influenced. Lobbyists don't bother to visit him, etc. He's proven his integrity and consistency for 20 years in Congress. Yes, he'll be under more pressure as President, but I'm confident he's up to the challenge. I honestly believe he'd go to his grave before compromising on principle. That's the kind of men our Founders were, and that's the kind of man Ron Paul is.

He admits it'll be an uphill battle to accomplish his goals. We all admit that. Dr. Paul is anything but naive. But the difference between him and the rest of the riff-raff is he'll do his darndest, no matter what!