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    Ok, so I'm on the way home from work and the "headlight"
    light comes on.
    Great. I just got this thing running, now the gremlins start showing up.
    Light was getting high and low beam just fine, no problems. Now, no high or low! Headlights don't just burn both sides out, eveyone knows that.
    Hell, I know what to do, I read XS11.com. I am informed!
    Must be the crappy fuse block, or the headlight relay, or the RLU.
    I attack immediately, armed with my VOM and jumper wires.
    Side covers:OFF
    Fuses: CHECK! dammit.
    Take off seat.
    Take off tank.
    Look at all that stuff, must be a problem in here all right.
    Relay OUT!
    Hot wire it, hey,it clicks!Hmmm
    Hot wire it and check the switched side, that works too. Ohfur two. Not lookin good for the home team.
    Jump the relay plug, "Headlight" light comes on.
    Stupid "headlight" light. What's with that thing? I mean, really!
    Look at the RLU, don't want nuthin to do with that. Didn't read that far.
    Pop the headlight out. Check the light with it still connected(duH) it checks good.
    Must be the Vetter wiring.
    Take the pocket apart. Wrong one.
    Take other pocket apart. Check plugs, check ground.
    Now I got stuff scattered all over the place. Lookin like Sanford & Son.
    Check continuity. Check voltage to plug. It's all good.
    WTF? Plug it in, "headlight" light come on.
    Unplug the Vetter, check the plug on the headlight side. Checks...... no good. SMACK head!
    UNPLUG the light and check it. Whaddya know, its burned out. Both sides. Maybe next time the "headlight" light comes on, I'll swing into the Zone and grab a bulb.
    Oh well, I learned all about the wiring system today.
    That's why my picture says "GENIUS".
    XS1100SF
    XS1100F

  • #2
    Hey Dan,

    Don't feel bad. Many times we hear hoofprints, and look for ZEBRAS instead of horses!

    Folks have spent days trying to fix an ignition problem cause they had ALREADY fixed the Pickup Coil wires, so it couldn't be them, but their symptoms were PU coil type, and after Xhausting the other trouble shooting, went back and found their "FIX" had failed!

    Heck, even my recent post about my tire fitting too snugly, having Xperienced that 5 years earlier, but forgot about it with the new tire, did the same thing and burned my fender and tire again!

    But...concern about you burning out your bulb has me suggesting that you check your VOLTAGEs while running, to make sure you're not overcharging....Xcessive volts/amps can fry the bulbs, may have a Reg/Rect problem developing??
    T.C.
    T. C. Gresham
    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
    History shows again and again,
    How nature points out the folly of men!

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    • #3
      Oh, I don't feel bad, it was quality time yah know?
      I heard hooves and was looking for elephants.
      I will check the regulator though.
      I've been driving this thing since Saturday, switched on the highbeam on the way to work because the lights were adjusted low. Did not notice any flaring.
      I did zing it a bit before the bulb fried, could be a freak thing. None of the running lights need changed. You would think the fuse would pop before the headlight turned into a flash bulb.
      XS1100SF
      XS1100F

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      • #4
        You would think the fuse would pop before the headlight turned into a flash bulb.
        Checked my Hella Catalogue, says:

        Headlamp bulbs are rated for 13.2V Signal bulbs at 13.8V
        5% overvoltage = half the life
        5% undervoltage = twice the life and 83% light output (100% @ 13.5V)
        10% = 67% light output (100% @ 13.5V)

        So mightn't take too much of an overvoltage condition for too long to pop the bulb. It wouldn't use too much extra current, so a fuse won't provide protection.
        Say 60W bulb at 13.2V = 4.55A, so R = 2.9 ohm
        Volts becomes 15V, current becomes 5.17A, Watts = 77W. Bulb won't last long like that?
        Also a connection that's making and breaking so the lamp's flickering will shorten it's life too.

        Hook up a voltmeter to check the voltage whilst the XS is running, take it from there. 14.4V at the battery is ok, but no more. Wiring losses should drop that down at the headlamp to the 13.2 range.
        I've got some H4 60/55watt +50's to try. They are meant to put out 50% more light and give a 10-20m longer beam for no extra current.
        I've read that bulbs lose output over time, can't find data for H4, but H3 are rated for 450 hours, H9 for 500hrs.

        page 200/1 http://www.hella.co.nz/site_resource...s/12bulbs1.pdf

        page 69 http://www.hella.co.nz/site_resource...Fs/06work1.pdf

        Anyway, I sees you say the other bulbs are ok, so perhaps your RR is ok, but I've been looking into this subject as my tractor as 8 55W worklamps and 2 headlamps and I trying to figure out a few things, so there's some info I figure the board in general would be interested in.

        Cheers
        Dave
        XS1100G (3X1 000274) "Torquey"

        You can think of a lightning bolt as essentially a really really big bug zapper. Unfortunatey, we're the bugs.

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