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I have no proof that those 250 numbers are absolute facts. It was information given to me verbally a few years back. Sounds like we need some verification to settle the dispute. I would definitely like to know for sure.
How can we find out?
Read the article in the link below. Is it accurate?
The 1981 Yamaha 1100 Midnight Special motorcycle wasn't your typical cruiser-type bike. It had an inline-four power and shaft-drive which was faster and smoother than other cruisers. See pictures and learn about the Yamaha 1100 Midnight Special.
I have had 6. 4 LHs and 2 LGs. The serial numbers on a couple of mine were above what I thought would have been a run of 250 would have been
Originally posted by MPittma100
I have no proof that those 250 numbers are absolute facts. It was information given to me verbally a few years back. Sounds like we need some verification to settle the dispute. I would definitely like to know for sure.
How can we find out?
Originally posted by MPittma100
Read the article in the link below. Is it accurate?
The '80 LG serial numbers started with 4H3-000101 ...
Assuming the first bike off the production line was 000101 ... if the serial numbers ran sequentially, and each successive bike off the line increased the serial # by one digit ...
I.E. 000101, 000102, etc.
Then, a production run of 250 LG's should have ended with serial # 000350 ...
Back in 2009, two different members here posted LG serial #'s of 002368 and 002203. As you can see, something is not adding up!
Unless Yamaha was doing something strange with the serial #'s on the Midnights, they produced well over 2,000 Midnights for 1980 alone!
I guess the real question is - Did Yamaha do specific serial numbers just for the MNS? Did they separate the MNS at all from the others? They possibly included the MNS serial numbers with the regular Specials/Standards serial numbers? If they did, that would answer the riddle of the seemingly large quantity of the MNS. They may have only designated the MNS by the first three numerals.
From the article, it is apparent that there are some sources that state/believe there were only 500 total produced for both years. That's got to have a specific origin don't you think?
Next time I am at the LG I will record and post its s/n.
Mike
Originally posted by Prisoner6
Well, Mike -
The '80 LG serial numbers started with 4H3-000101 ...
Assuming the first bike off the production line was 000101 ... if the serial numbers ran sequentially, and each successive bike off the line increased the serial # by one digit ...
I.E. 000101, 000102, etc.
Then, a production run of 250 LG's should have ended with serial # 000350 ...
Back in 2009, two different members here posted LG serial #'s of 002368 and 002203. As you can see, something is not adding up!
Unless Yamaha was doing something strange with the serial #'s on the Midnights, they produced well over 2,000 Midnights for 1980 alone!
Would Midnights have their own serial number run, or would they be mixed with the other XS1100's?
Originally posted by MPittma100
They possibly included the MNS serial numbers with the regular Specials/Standards serial numbers? If they did, that would answer the riddle of the seemingly large quantity of the MNS. They may have only designated the MNS by the first three numerals.
Mike
If Yamaha did indeed mix/include the Midnights' serial #'s with other XS11 production runs, it would certainly reconcile the low "250-per-year" Midnight claim with
Unfortunately only Yamaha has the answer to the question of how many MNS were produced and from several articles I have read they are either not forthcoming with the information or as one article said no longer have it. However given the number of MNS for sale on a regular basis it is hard to believe the 250 figure. Maybe there is a government data base that might have the figures, DOT.
Would'nt know, since it wasn't offered this side of the 'pond'. But, you already know it was my favorite option for its 'go fast' look, even sitting still.
81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.
Would'nt know, since it wasn't offered this side of the 'pond'. But, you already know it was my favorite option for its 'go fast' look, even sitting still.
yep...I was just looking at some google images of the Martini...wow... a shame they never made it to this side of the pond...
Unfortunately only Yamaha has the answer to the question of how many MNS were produced ... However given the number of MNS for sale on a regular basis it is hard to believe the 250 figure.
It is very hard to believe that number ...
Don't know if this is the original source of the "250-per-year" Midnight production claim, but ...
THIS book, titled "Motorcycle Chronicle: One Hundred Years Of Magnificent Machines", by Doug Mitchel, makes just that claim. It was released in July 2001.
Marco
Current bikes: 1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
1979 Honda CBX
2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R
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