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  • MPittma100
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Aug 2011
    • 2359
    • Atlanta, GA.

    #16
    Read this Article

    Originally posted by MPittma100
    I have no proof that those 250 numbers are absolute facts. It was information given to me verbally a few years back. Sounds like we need some verification to settle the dispute. I would definitely like to know for sure.

    How can we find out?
    Read the article in the link below. Is it accurate?

    The 1981 Yamaha 1100 Midnight Special motorcycle wasn't your typical cruiser-type bike. It had an inline-four power and shaft-drive which was faster and smoother than other cruisers. See pictures and learn about the Yamaha 1100 Midnight Special.
    Last edited by MPittma100; 09-06-2014, 10:37 PM.
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    • Prisoner6
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Aug 2013
      • 1184
      • Phoenix, AZ

      #17
      Originally posted by dpotter58
      I have had 6. 4 LHs and 2 LGs. The serial numbers on a couple of mine were above what I thought would have been a run of 250 would have been
      Originally posted by MPittma100
      I have no proof that those 250 numbers are absolute facts. It was information given to me verbally a few years back. Sounds like we need some verification to settle the dispute. I would definitely like to know for sure.

      How can we find out?
      Originally posted by MPittma100
      Read the article in the link below. Is it accurate?

      http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1981-y...ht-special.htm
      Well, Mike -

      The '80 LG serial numbers started with 4H3-000101 ...

      Assuming the first bike off the production line was 000101 ... if the serial numbers ran sequentially, and each successive bike off the line increased the serial # by one digit ...

      I.E. 000101, 000102, etc.

      Then, a production run of 250 LG's should have ended with serial # 000350 ...

      Back in 2009, two different members here posted LG serial #'s of 002368 and 002203. As you can see, something is not adding up!

      Unless Yamaha was doing something strange with the serial #'s on the Midnights, they produced well over 2,000 Midnights for 1980 alone!


      P.S. What's the serial # of your LG, Mike?
      Last edited by Prisoner6; 09-07-2014, 05:09 AM.
      Marco

      Current bikes:
      1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
      1979 Honda CBX
      2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

      Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
      WE MISS YOU, DON

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      • jetmechmarty
        Master of XSology
        • Nov 2003
        • 7768
        • Coldwater, Mississippi

        #18
        Originally posted by MPittma100
        Read the article in the link below. Is it accurate?

        http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1981-y...ht-special.htm
        No citations are listed for the article.

        Would Midnights have their own serial number run, or would they be mixed with the other XS1100's?
        Marty (in Mississippi)
        XS1100SG
        XS650SK
        XS650SH
        XS650G
        XS6502F
        XS650E

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        • MPittma100
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Aug 2011
          • 2359
          • Atlanta, GA.

          #19
          Still A Mystery

          I guess the real question is - Did Yamaha do specific serial numbers just for the MNS? Did they separate the MNS at all from the others? They possibly included the MNS serial numbers with the regular Specials/Standards serial numbers? If they did, that would answer the riddle of the seemingly large quantity of the MNS. They may have only designated the MNS by the first three numerals.

          From the article, it is apparent that there are some sources that state/believe there were only 500 total produced for both years. That's got to have a specific origin don't you think?

          Next time I am at the LG I will record and post its s/n.

          Mike

          Originally posted by Prisoner6
          Well, Mike -

          The '80 LG serial numbers started with 4H3-000101 ...

          Assuming the first bike off the production line was 000101 ... if the serial numbers ran sequentially, and each successive bike off the line increased the serial # by one digit ...

          I.E. 000101, 000102, etc.

          Then, a production run of 250 LG's should have ended with serial # 000350 ...

          Back in 2009, two different members here posted LG serial #'s of 002368 and 002203. As you can see, something is not adding up!

          Unless Yamaha was doing something strange with the serial #'s on the Midnights, they produced well over 2,000 Midnights for 1980 alone!


          P.S. What's the serial # of your LG, Mike?
          Last edited by MPittma100; 09-07-2014, 06:52 AM.
          1981 XS1100H Venturer
          K&N Air Filter
          ACCT
          Custom Paint by Deitz
          Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
          Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
          Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
          Stebel Nautilus Horn
          EBC Front Rotors
          Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

          Mike

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          • Prisoner6
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Aug 2013
            • 1184
            • Phoenix, AZ

            #20
            Originally posted by jetmechmarty
            No citations are listed for the article.

            Would Midnights have their own serial number run, or would they be mixed with the other XS1100's?
            The LG's were identified as 4H3, and the SG's were identified as 3J6 ...

            The LH's were identified as 4W1, and the SH's were identified as 4R0 ...

            So I would assume they would each have their own "last-6-digit" serial # ???
            Last edited by Prisoner6; 09-07-2014, 06:55 AM.
            Marco

            Current bikes:
            1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
            1979 Honda CBX
            2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

            Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
            WE MISS YOU, DON

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            • Prisoner6
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Aug 2013
              • 1184
              • Phoenix, AZ

              #21
              Originally posted by jetmechmarty
              Would Midnights have their own serial number run, or would they be mixed with the other XS1100's?
              Originally posted by MPittma100
              They possibly included the MNS serial numbers with the regular Specials/Standards serial numbers? If they did, that would answer the riddle of the seemingly large quantity of the MNS. They may have only designated the MNS by the first three numerals.
              Mike
              If Yamaha did indeed mix/include the Midnights' serial #'s with other XS11 production runs, it would certainly reconcile the low "250-per-year" Midnight claim with

              the high LG serial #'s I posted above.
              Last edited by Prisoner6; 09-07-2014, 07:17 AM.
              Marco

              Current bikes:
              1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
              1979 Honda CBX
              2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

              Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
              WE MISS YOU, DON

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              • DCII
                XSive Maximus
                • Jul 2010
                • 792
                • Centerville, Ohio

                #22
                Unfortunately only Yamaha has the answer to the question of how many MNS were produced and from several articles I have read they are either not forthcoming with the information or as one article said no longer have it. However given the number of MNS for sale on a regular basis it is hard to believe the 250 figure. Maybe there is a government data base that might have the figures, DOT.

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                • motoman
                  Master of XSology
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 8413
                  • Grand Junction, Colorado

                  #23
                  Originally posted by madmax-im
                  I thought the Martini XS1100 was the rarest...
                  Would'nt know, since it wasn't offered this side of the 'pond'. But, you already know it was my favorite option for its 'go fast' look, even sitting still.
                  81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                  • madmax-im
                    Master of XSology
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 6751
                    • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

                    #24
                    Originally posted by motoman
                    Would'nt know, since it wasn't offered this side of the 'pond'. But, you already know it was my favorite option for its 'go fast' look, even sitting still.
                    yep...I was just looking at some google images of the Martini...wow... a shame they never made it to this side of the pond...
                    Last edited by madmax-im; 09-07-2014, 12:51 PM.
                    1980 XS650G Special-Two
                    1993 Honda ST1100

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                    • Prisoner6
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1184
                      • Phoenix, AZ

                      #25
                      Originally posted by DCII
                      Unfortunately only Yamaha has the answer to the question of how many MNS were produced ... However given the number of MNS for sale on a regular basis it is hard to believe the 250 figure.
                      It is very hard to believe that number ...

                      Don't know if this is the original source of the "250-per-year" Midnight production claim, but ...

                      THIS book, titled "Motorcycle Chronicle: One Hundred Years Of Magnificent Machines", by Doug Mitchel, makes just that claim. It was released in July 2001.

                      Marco

                      Current bikes:
                      1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
                      1979 Honda CBX
                      2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

                      Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
                      WE MISS YOU, DON

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                      • Prisoner6
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1184
                        • Phoenix, AZ

                        #26
                        Originally posted by madmax-im
                        I thought the Martini XS1100 was the rarest...
                        Originally posted by motoman
                        But, you already know it was my favorite option for its 'go fast' look, even sitting still.
                        Originally posted by madmax-im
                        yep...I was just looking at some google images of the Martini...wow... a shame they never made it to this side of the pond...



                        Very cool ...
                        Marco

                        Current bikes:
                        1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
                        1979 Honda CBX
                        2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

                        Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
                        WE MISS YOU, DON

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                        • madmax-im
                          Master of XSology
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 6751
                          • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

                          #27
                          Downright Bitchin'....
                          1980 XS650G Special-Two
                          1993 Honda ST1100

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