2 ! 1980 xs1100SG's

[Bonz]

No worries on this end of things, it's up to me whether I read what comes up on this site, so it's no heartburn to me. I think we are all firm and founded enough in whatever we believe to let the conversation go, and it will find it's own end.

[Bibleman]

Where do I start? As for the religious part of the conversation, let me just say that for anyone interested in the off-topic Bible-banter you can go to www.familyradio.com and download or view a wealth of free info on the 50 years of hard study that has been done on this calendar which has been calibrated with all calendars by understanding the principle of a year is always 365.242 days long. This always a Truth and never changes. A good start to uncover the calendar is the book titled "Adam when?". also "No man knows the Day nor the Hour" is a good read for those that are still in the churches.-- AS far as the selling of my bikes is concerned - I can use the money for expenditures on traveling and preaching this message as it does cost money. - John

[gareth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hJQ18S6aag

Pretty sure that my own demise will occur in the next 30 years or so. Hopefully not WAAAY sooner.
Fairly confident that things will carry on perfectly normally without me. It's been that way for centuries. I only arrived on the scene in 1961, so the entire course of human history had to progress without my meagre contributions and my eventual purchase of a motorcycle and subscription to an internet forum.
Fairly sure too, that those who confidently predict the End of The World as They Know It, are just too terrified of a world without them in it, that their own demise must naturally be predicated on some impending Armageddon that takes everone else out at the same time.

So sell your bike, BibleDude. Run around like some small animal telling everyone that the sky is falling 'cos you felt a small acorn fall on your head. That was just an inkling of your own mortality. It ain't gonna be like that. Everyone isn't going to die at once. You got stuff happening inside you, right now, that pretty much has put a limit on your time here. Its called your Humanity. Nothing to do with Signs, Calendars and Wonders. Look in the mirror. See the wrinkles? It's on its way....It's Mysterious.
It's Deadly.
It's Spooky.

Most people don't talk about it though. So you might think that the slow intimation of your own mortality is somehow a unique revelation that needs to be shared with everyone. Stop right there.

Spare us the prognostications. I'm not sure if you were planning to hawk salvation along with the doom. Or maybe even pull a few scapegoats out of your saddlebags. But it's a drag having to listen to it from anyone.

"Just Float on the Anxiety, Man. And Try not to Lay a Heavy Trip on the People",

(I remember someone saying this when I was 10..Think it was John Lennon. Could have been Dad. Either way, someone was stoned..)

Above all, don't panic when this sort of thinking edges into your life. Munch the horror of it, a little bit at a time, and come to grips with the inevitable nice and slowly. Bite sized pieces. That's called maturity. At the other end is Paranoid Schizophrenia. Don't go there. They are not out to get you. You are out to get You. "The Call is coming from inside the house..."
But I don't think you are panicking. Traditionally, those that see the path most clearly tend to give away their earthly possessions, and there is the small matter of the $2200 for the bikes.

BTW, if you were planning to come by NYC, please find a nice quiet street corner to yourself. Nothing worse than having to listen to two guys ranting from the same sad intersection. Keep clear of Times Square as a newbie. That's for the pro's..


Anyway.

I'm going to move off this corner and go home.

Thanks for listening.

[Bibleman]

Read the account of Noah, You may be surprised to learn that the fountains of the deep broke up and it rained 40 days and 40 nights. science is beginning to admit that this world is much young than previously "taught". The Bible teaches that the earth is 13,000 + 22 1/2 tears old. Which makes it somewhat older than the mighty xs1100. And almost as old as you pretend to be. May God bless - John

[Jerry]

50 years of hard study that has been done on this calendar which has been calibrated with all calendars by understanding the principle of a year is always 365.242 days long. This always a Truth and never changes.

Really?

The period of the Earth's revolution around the Sun. This period can be measured in several ways.

The most commonly used type of year, known as the tropical year, is the mean period for the Sun to go around the sky from one vernal equinox to the next. The tropical year varies slightly over time. (Emphasis added) Tropical year 2000 was approximately 365.242190 mean solar days, or 365 d 5 h 48 m 45.2 s. Seasons repeat with intervals of a tropical year.

The sidereal year is the average period of the Earth's revolution around the Sun until the Earth-Sun line returns to the same direction in space as measured by the star background. A sidereal year is approximately 365.25636 mean solar days long, or 365 d 6 h 9 m 10 s.

The anomalistic year is the average period of the Earth's return to perihelion in its orbit around the Sun. An anomalistic year is approximately 365.25964 days, or 365 d 6 h 13 m 53 s.

An eclipse year is the duration between alternate eclipse seasons, measured as the interval between the Moon passing alternate nodes. An eclipse year lasts only 346.62005 days, or 346 d 14 h 52 m 52 s.

A Gaussian year, defined as the period derived from Kepler's law for 1 astronomical unit, is 365.25690 days, or 365 d 6 h 9 m 56 s. See also Astronomical unit; Kepler's laws.

In any event, a "year" is never 365.242 days long. And, on average, the tropical year - closest to the number you reference - varies from year to year, and the average is longer than the 365.242 days yor quoted.

BTW, the vernal equinox (spring equinox) occures on either March 20 or 21 every year, has a long history of religious significance:

Modern astronomy aside, people have recognized the vernal equinox for thousands of years. There is no shortage of rituals and traditions surrounding the coming of spring. Many early peoples celebrated for the basic reason that their food supplies would soon be restored. The date is significant in Christianity because Easter always falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox. It is also probably no coincidence that early Egyptians built the Great Sphinx so that it points directly toward the rising Sun on the day of the vernal equinox.

The first day of spring also marks the beginning of Nowruz, the Persian New Year. The celebration lasts 13 days and is rooted in the 3,000-year-old tradition of Zorastrianism.

Read more: Vernal (Spring) Equinox — Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/riteo...#ixzz155dq6hdI

[Bibleman]

Way over my head. But the Hebrew calendar is the one that God uses for marking time. Something about the moon phases, I believe. There is a study on www.familyradio.com that does take into account the monthly cycles. I do not look for absolute TRUTH outside of the Bible, as mankind seems determined to provide unsubstantiated evidence(see evolution) to prove that there is no God Almighty. Whatever the case or cases you are presenting it has no merit if you are trying to say that the accuracy of time varies from one year to another. That is where mankind fails a scientific test by his own reasoning based on his motive, or "heart",which
God calls "desperately wicked and deceitful above all things: who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9 Check your heart as you check out your math. God bless - John

[Jerry]

The Bible teaches that the earth is 13,000 + 22 1/2 tears old.

Tell that to David Burnie or read his book, "Get a grip on evolution." Based on geaneology studies of the Old Testament, done by Bishop James Ussher, Burnie and other came to the conclusion the Eath was formed in 4004 B.C. This would make the Earth roughly 6,000 years old.

This figure is echoed in other theological writings, many of which pre-date Ussher's work and are the results of other researcher's interpretation of events and timelines noted in the Bible.

I don't buy the 6K figure, but use this information to show that the Bible does not give a specific age of the Earth, and various attempts to use the Bible as a basis for dating Eath's age result in widly differing figures, all of which are speculative. The Bible does not teach us anything about Earth's age.

[Jerry]

So your doomsday prediction is that on May 20, 2010 (Hebrew Calendar) Judgement Day will begin? And that this calendar is always 365.242 days long (A Truth, you called it.)

Furthermore, the modern Hebrew Calendar cannot be used to calculate Biblical dates because new moon dates may be in error by ±2 days and may be in error by ±2 months. The latter accounts for the irregular intercalation (adding of extra months) that was performed in three successive years in the early second century, according to the Talmud.

Noty only has the Hebrew calendar been adjusted over the years, to keep it in sync with the Gorgian calendar, an extra month is added every 2 or 3 years. This flies in the face of your assertion that the Calendar is 265.242 days long every year.

...with an intercalary lunar month added seven times every nineteen years (once every two to three years) to synchronize the twelve lunar cycles with the slightly longer solar year.

I have no doubt of your religious convictions, but I do question your predictions, which are based on man-made contrivances such as calendars which have been revised, modified, and changed over the years. You appear to be unaware of the basis on which your dates and projections are based.

You further disregard other Bible passages which assert men will not know when the Judgment Day will arrive. I find it interesting that you choose to quibble calendars instead of Thessolonians Chapter 5.

I tell you what. Lets post to this thread again on March 20 or 21 to see what has happened. See you then.

[xsroadrunner]

From what I have heard ...there no longer is a HBT forum therefore this conversation should not even be permitted...why is it the mods are not doing their job? This is supposed to be the forsale forum hello!

[Rickrod3]

From what I have heard ...there no longer is a HBT forum therefore this conversation should not even be permitted...why is it the mods are not doing their job? This is supposed to be the forsale forum hello!

I concur.
Are we selling, buying or sermonizing?

[SFerinTEXAS]

Looks to me the man wants to sell and gave his reasons. More power to him. Its all the rest that just couldn't stay out of it, just like before.Maybe more banning is in order. Or less before.

Good luck on the sale and hope for the best for us all.

[b.walker5]

Looks to me the man wants to sell and gave his reasons. More power to him. Its all the rest that just couldn't stay out of it, just like before.Maybe more banning is in order. Or less before.

Good luck on the sale and hope for the best for us all.

No, he knowingly started a theoligical debate under the guise of selling a couple of bikes, which may or may not exist. Clearly an attempt at subversion of this forum to promote his own particular doomsday theory.

Wrong Place, Wrong Time buddy. Go to church if you want to talk about this stuff, round here we talk about bikes.

[figman]

No, he knowingly started a theoligical debate under the guise of selling a couple of bikes, which may or may not exist. Clearly an attempt at subversion of this forum to promote his own particular doomsday theory.

Wrong Place, Wrong Time buddy. Go to church if you want to talk about this stuff, round here we talk about bikes.

Well said and I totally agree.

[SFerinTEXAS]

Maybe so. And maybe someone else named John is selling an SG in the same town. Go figure
http://hartford.craigslist.org/mcy/1982573076.html

[SFerinTEXAS]

Gee it even looks alot like the one he posted here back in august

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29688