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  • Anybody bypassed the headlight relay?

    Have any of you bypassed your headlight relay?

    I think I have relay problems again. No headlight while out for a ride today. Last time I rode it, I had to rev the engine a lot and it finally came on. This time, no luck.

    So is there a better solution? Maybe there is a better/cheaper relay anyway?

    Ben
    1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
    1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
    1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
    1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
    1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

    Formerly:
    1982 XS650
    1980 XS1100g
    1979 XS1100sf
    1978 XS1100e donor

  • #2
    Without the relay, you would have to install a switch or have the headlight come on when you turn the ignition on.

    The throttle housing from a pre-79 XS (400,650) has a headlight switch in it.

    You may want to check that your charging system is working correctly. Does your tach work?
    DZ
    Vyger, 'F'
    "The Special", 'SF'
    '08 FJR1300

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    • #3
      Yep, you can bypass the relay. Mine was that way forever....not a problem.

      There are 4 wires into the relay...can't remember the colors for sure but bear with me....

      Black-ground.
      White-trigger or field wire...

      Then there is a power wire, and the load wire (goes to the headlight).

      Connect the power to the load. The power is switched with the key, so it will go off when the key is off..

      The only difference is the light will come on when you turn the key on, rather than when you start the engine. Was never a problem for me.

      BTW the culprit is generally the white field wire...it has a diaode in it...somewhere in the harness...it is a feed from one of the fields of the alternator...and the diaode makes it DC enough to trigger the relay. The diaodes go "sproing" and I've never found its actual location in the harness to replace it.
      CUAgain,
      Daniel Meyer
      Author. Adventurer. Electrician.
      Find out why...It's About the Ride.

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      • #4
        relay

        I was just about to post a question about the same thing. I have been noticing that my headlight will go out while I am driving in low beam and stay out. but if i switch to high beam the high beam stays on. IS THIS THE SAME PROBLEM?....CHOP
        MDRNF
        79F.....Not Stock
        80G......Not Stock Either....In the works

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        • #5
          I'd check your wires man...clean them up. Having said that though, I have mine bypassed, and wired into the ignition. Also wired for all the time high beam. Can't remember how I did it, but I will got out and take a gander and post back
          80' Xs eleven special "The Tank"

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          • #6
            Re: Anybody bypassed the headlight relay?

            Here is how I did it. Pick the link.
            http://home.earthlink.net/~sidskids/motorcycles.htm

            Originally posted by ae7f
            Have any of you bypassed your headlight relay?

            I think I have relay problems again. No headlight while out for a ride today. Last time I rode it, I had to rev the engine a lot and it finally came on. This time, no luck.

            So is there a better solution? Maybe there is a better/cheaper relay anyway?

            Ben
            Skids (Sid Hansen)

            Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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            • #7
              So is there anything special about the relay? I replaced the turn signal one with a 2.99 special. Has anyone replaced the relay with an el-cheapo?

              Ben
              1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
              1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
              1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
              1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
              1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

              Formerly:
              1982 XS650
              1980 XS1100g
              1979 XS1100sf
              1978 XS1100e donor

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              • #8
                I used a 30-amp relay. You do not have to use a switch to turn on the relay if you use the wires as the original relay used. The relay is a simple electronic switch in itself. You will find them near the horns and lighting aisle of the auto parts store.

                Originally posted by ae7f
                So is there anything special about the relay? I replaced the turn signal one with a 2.99 special. Has anyone replaced the relay with an el-cheapo?

                Ben
                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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