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  • #16
    Damn! I wasn't sure why that collar was there. I hope mine is still in my junk drawer...

    Ken wrote: It has a collar that slips over the magnet that seems to focus or amplify the pulling power. At the same time, it eliminates any attraction to the side of the pick-up head.
    Skids (Sid Hansen)

    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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    • #17
      The good news is that I got the chain threaded back around!

      What I did was this: 1. moved the wiring so I could see inside the motor easily. 2. Took a long craftsman screw driver and used it to hold back the rear tensor. 3. Took a 3 foot piece of 19 gage utility wire, straightened it, and put a small hook in one end. (roughly 1/4 inch by 3/32 or so.) 4. took a small nut from an old skate board wheel and tied it to a 4 foot piece of dental floss. 5. snaked my hook down the front part of the motor and under the crank shaft, then turned it slightly to one side. (opposite the opening of the hook.) 6. lowered my nut on floss down the back side using the screw driver to help guide it around and under the crank shaft. 7. turned my hook to capture the floss and prayed, I got lucky and snagged it on the first try. 8. carefully pull up the hook and nut, once it was out I tied the cam chain to it and secured the other end to the frame then I pulled the chain through. I had to jiggle it a bit going under the crank but other than that it worked out fine! Once it was through I wired it off to the frame.

      To see inside I used a small mag light wedged between the head and the frame shining into the engine that helped a lot while getting the hook under the crank and getting the nut to fall where I wanted it to.

      Thank you again for all the help!
      Last edited by tony7914; 04-10-2006, 04:39 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tony7914
        The good news is that I got the chain threaded back around!

        What I did was this: 1. moved the wiring so I could see inside the motor easily. 2. Took a long craftsman screw driver and used it to hold back the rear tensor. 3. Took a 3 foot piece of 19 gage utility wire, straightened it, and put a small hook in one end. (roughly 1/4 inch by 3/32 or so.) 4. took a small nut from an old skate board wheel and tied it to a 4 foot piece of dental floss. 5. snaked my hook down the front part of the motor and under the crank shaft, then turned it slightly to one side. (opposite the opening of the hook.) 6. lowered my nut on floss down the back side using the screw driver to help guide it around and under the crank shaft. 7. turned my hook to capture the floss and prayed, I got lucky and snagged it on the first try. 8. carefully pull up the hook and nut, once it was out I tied the cam chain to it and secured the other end to the frame then I pulled the chain through. I had to jiggle it a bit going under the crank but other than that it worked out fine! Once it was through I wired it off to the frame.

        To see inside I used a small mag light wedged between the head and the frame shining into the engine that helped a lot while getting the hook under the crank and getting the nut to fall where I wanted it to.

        Thank you again for all the help!
        Skids (Sid Hansen)

        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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        • #19
          Dental floss(!) It is good things wen so well, or they would have been much worse. Congrats...now don't do that again!

          Originally posted by skids
          Skids (Sid Hansen)

          Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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          • #20
            Dental floss indeed!!! Necesity is truly the mother of invention. Glad to hear you solved the delema.
            Brian
            1978E Midlife Crisis - A work in progress
            1984 Kawasaki 550 Ltd - Gone, but not forgotten

            A married man should forget his mistakes. There's no use in two people
            remembering the same thing!

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            • #21
              This technique really bites!

              Hey Skids,

              Well, Of course Dental Floss!! It can get into really tight places and . . . .
              Those sprockets have TEETH!
              Makes perfect sense!!

              You may groan now!
              T.C.
              T. C. Gresham
              81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
              79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
              History shows again and again,
              How nature points out the folly of men!

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              • #22
                Dental floss is very strong and lightweight for it's size, besides, I ran out of fishing line.

                Thanks again!

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                • #23
                  Ehhh... better off. The fishing line woulda broke just as you "Landed" the chain... lol I think you should go ahead and split the case anyway... just for practice!

                  Tod
                  Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                  You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                  Current bikes:
                  '06 Suzuki DR650
                  *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                  '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                  '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                  '81 XS1100 Special
                  '81 YZ250
                  '80 XS850 Special
                  '80 XR100
                  *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                  • #24
                    You're right, Teeth-C...[

                    QUOTE]Well, Of course Dental Floss!! It can get into really tight places and . . . . [/QUOTE]
                    Those sprockets have TEETH!
                    Dental floss is really handy when you GUM things up. It's inexpensive, and doesn't take a BITE out of your budget. I like to use it to tie small parts together when spraying ENAMEL paint.
                    I once had a prob when trying to paint my side covers. The emblems where stuck to it somehow. I worked some floss under one corner, and slid it across the cover. I never would have gotten that PLAQUE off without the dental floss.
                    Gene, a buddy of mine, keeps a supply in his garage. Whenever I need any, I just call him up. "HI GENE... I need some floss."
                    Some times he CHEWS me out for being such a pest... says I treat him like an inDENTURED servant, but I know he'll never give me the "BRUSH off". He once gave me a set of fork BRACES for free!
                    I shall remember the dental floss trick the next time I drop something down the cam chain CAVITY.
                    (What's that noise... must be T.C. groanin') I'm surprised he didn't comment on the post from XSSIVEONE
                    Dental floss indeed!!! Necesity is truly the mother of invention
                    (I never was a Frank Zappa fan, but I know of his work)
                    "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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                    • #25
                      (I never was a Frank Zappa fan, but I know of his work)

                      Yabut, are ya movin' to Montana soon?
                      Brian
                      1978E Midlife Crisis - A work in progress
                      1984 Kawasaki 550 Ltd - Gone, but not forgotten

                      A married man should forget his mistakes. There's no use in two people
                      remembering the same thing!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by trbig
                        Ehhh... better off. The fishing line woulda broke just as you "Landed" the chain... lol I think you should go ahead and split the case anyway... just for practice!

                        Tod
                        Hhhhhhhhmmmmmmm...............let me think about that for a moment..........ah...............NO! LOL!!

                        Thank you folks again for all the help!

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                        • #27
                          Not one to look a gift horse in the mouth!

                          (What's that noise... must be T.C. groanin')
                          Hey Pro-sthetic,
                          At first it appeared that you were making sincere comments, but now I can see you were just picking on me, causing the hairs on my neck to bristle, filling me with a desire to get to the root of this behavior before it decayed into a mere grinding of words, etching themselves into my psyche.

                          Some may find these remarks unpalatable, others may not give a spit, but it will be a crowning achievement as well as a feather in my cap to beat these quips to a pulp, but if I fail, it'll be no skin off my teeth!

                          T.C.(Tarter Control)
                          T. C. Gresham
                          81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                          79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                          History shows again and again,
                          How nature points out the folly of men!

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                          • #28
                            "I have been soundly trounced once again!"

                            (No, I haven't)
                            T.C., all talk, but little WISDOM !
                            All this rivalry has left a bad TASTE in my MOUTH. And I'm not just saying this TONGUE in CHEEK, either. I really mean it. I'm not one to give way to BITING sarcasm, but you may have BITTEN off more than you can CHEW, this time, T.C.! Go ahead... keep YANKing my chain!
                            You've got a lot of NERVE, Buddy. As I am one who tends to "burn his BRIDGES" behind him... I aughta...
                            No, I'm sorry... I shouldn't threaten. But I just want to leave an IMPRESSION on you, Sir.
                            Don't force me to take CORRECTIVE measures with you. You may be SMILING now... But I'll make you EAT your words! It will be a bitter pill for the Great T.C. to SWALLOW.
                            T.C., the Great Punmaster... ORTHO he thought!

                            CHOKE on that, Tough Guy!
                            "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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                            • #29
                              Hello:
                              as with anything slightly mechanical, be cautious using a telescoping magnet retreival tool inside your engine.the magnet on mine firmly attached itself to a fixed (thank heavens) part deep in the bowels of the engine, and promptly separated itself from the telescoping part!! I now have a built in magnetic shavings collector!! No ill effects to date, but was a worry at the time. There appeared no way to retreive same without splitting the engine. 10,000 km since !!
                              Cheers to all
                              Ducky on the "Wet Coast"
                              1977 Yamaha 750 triple
                              1980 Xs1100 Special
                              I have the time:
                              Just no Money!!

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                              • #30
                                TC, denture mother teach you no manners, boy?
                                "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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