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  • Ccitis
    Truly XSive
    • Jun 2023
    • 197

    #1

    Brake Pad Knock Back

    I have been chasing some a pesky fork vibration for a few years now. I get it on heavy braking and at higher speeds. Now I notice I am getting some pad kick back, what I mean is I have good lever feel, then suddenly it will go soft but the next pump is firm. Bled the brakes, same deal. Took the master cylinder apart cleaned it up and put it back. Lever feels fine at a standstill. Just goes soft after rolling or riding, every once in awhile. I can only think that is some piston kick back. Are bad rotors the only thing that does that? I don't want to buy expensive new rotors if I should be looking at something else?
  • DEEBS11
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Feb 2023
    • 2000
    • Connecticut

    #2
    Old rubber brake hoses can cause these symptoms.

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    • LAB3
      XSive Maximus
      • May 2022
      • 809
      • Traveling the U.S. with no permanent address

      #3
      Do you live in the mountains? Could be they're getting hot from over use. Helped out someone from Alabama a couple of weeks ago, her SUV has an automatic transmission and she never drove in the mountains of Western NC before, I could see her discs glowing cherry red!
      1980 XS1100G

      Intelligent people discuss ideas, average people discuss events, petty people discuss other people.

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      • Socer4m
        XStremely XSive
        • Sep 2020
        • 285
        • san diego

        #4
        second on Deebs,,,replace hoses if old,,,ebay has good, cheap braided stainless brake lines, various lengths if needed,,,also check axle bolt, caliper bolts and front fork brace bolts for tightness,,,maybe give the brakes another bleed, keep us informed, Mike in S.Diego and Pa.

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        • Radioguylogs
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Nov 2012
          • 2131
          • Presque Isle, MI

          #5
          Moisture in the caliper can cause that. It vaporizes when the brakes get hot.

          More of a problem with DOT5 than DOT 3/4.
          -Mike
          _________
          '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
          '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
          '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
          '79 XS750SF 17k miles
          '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
          '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
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          • Ccitis
            Truly XSive
            • Jun 2023
            • 197

            #6
            Brakes lines were new in 2018, as per the date on them. I don't use Dot 5... Dot 3 usually, sometimes 4. Sea level. Has not been hot. Have been through the front end many times making sure torques are correct. Its a bit of a mystery to me. Brake rotors warped?

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            • bikerphil
              Master of XSology
              • Jan 2008
              • 8877
              • South Flori-DUH

              #7
              You should be able to determine if the rotors are warped when coming to a slow stop, 5 MPH down to zero you should be able to feel it using the front brake only.
              2H7 (79) owned since '89
              3H3 owned since '06

              07 Triumph Tiger 1050 (night rider)

              "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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              • Ccitis
                Truly XSive
                • Jun 2023
                • 197

                #8
                Originally posted by bikerphil
                You should be able to determine if the rotors are warped when coming to a slow stop, 5 MPH down to zero you should be able to feel it using the front brake only.
                I agree. I am doubtful it is that. (BTW on another note, I just bought a 09 Tiger 1050... really enjoying that bike!)

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