Pick up coil issue?

[jetmechmarty]

Yes, I have some of that silicone wire on hand. That’s what I’ll be using. That, and some half length butt splices (uninsulated) if they’re small enough to grip the wire.

[DEEBS11]

I use this stuff.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/285171922904

[jetmechmarty]

I had to replace my crankshaft seal. My “bigger the blob the better the job” repair was temporary and probably made on the side of the road. Certainly not in my own garage. It has been so long I don’t remember doing it, only that I needed to do it over before it failed.
It may be after the holidays before I get after it.

The wire used was meter leads. That’s best use of a cheap Harbor Freight meter.

[DiverRay]

You can also put a LITTLE bit of dielectric grease inside the connector to keep the water out. I know some on this site do not like it, but Honda, Toyota, and older GM's all used it. The change is the "new" weatherproof connectors now being used by almost all the manufacturers.

[Radioguylogs]

I think what is happening with the dropping of 2 cylinders in wet conditions is water gets splashed/directed in the area of the loom connector behind the fuse panel. A solution for this is to wrap the connector with electrical tape in such a way, so no water can enter there.

Makes sense, since the wires are insulated in the other locations.

[bikerphil]

I think what is happening with the dropping of 2 cylinders in wet conditions is water gets splashed/directed in the area of the loom connector behind the fuse panel. A solution for this is to wrap the connector with electrical tape in such a way, so no water can enter there.

[Radioguylogs]

Hi shopteach, It is a good preventative measure to isolate the neutral safety switch wire into its own loom. Also remove it from the Molex connector above. This mod helps when riding in wet weather or after washing misfires. Since you have the hard part done makes it an easy job.

I've had two cylinders become mostly dead after washing. I believe this was was the cause. Cleared up after a few days.

[Schming]

Hi shopteach, It is a good preventative measure to isolate the neutral safety switch wire into its own loom. Also remove it from the Molex connector above. This mod helps when riding in wet weather or after washing misfires. Since you have the hard part done makes it an easy job.

[DEEBS11]

https://xs11.club/forum/repairs/battery-electrical-aa/631-pick-up-coil-wire-repair

[DEEBS11]

These areas are very suspect. When the rubber outer cover of the wire is cold they can give a false continuity check because the material is condensed and holding the broken pieces together. When the rubber is warm from a hot engine, the now softer material can stretch slightly and separate the inner wire core especially with a vibrating motor and the twist of the advance unit.

[DEEBS11]

Your equipment looks legitimate but I'm not sure with the spark plugs. However, testing wires on a cold, non-vibrating bike might give you erroneous results. I suggest putting it all back together and warming up the bike with the cover off. At idle, start pulling at the wires one at a time and see if you get a reaction.

Another question: When did you start to have this issue? What was done just prior to this problem occurring?

[shopteach]

Here are my parts, they all seem to be the good ones right?

[shopteach]

I checked the wires, pulled the sheathing all off and pulled on the wires pretty good. There was no "springy" sections in the wires indicating a broken wire. I researched that problem on here and on Youtube because it seemed like a common problem. Here are my wires:

Yesterday I had my bike in the shop with the heat on and I checked for resistance (ohms) with multimeter across all the wires and got nothing. I checked for for continuity in the wires from the plug all the way up to the start of the pick up coils and got continuity in all the wires telling me the wires are not broken. just for giggles I checked for resistance at the plug today in my cold shop and I got 723ohms on one and 732 out of the other. Seems like they are changing due to heat. Does that sound right?


Let me know what you guys think. I sure appreciate the help. I sooo want to have this issue behind me. Thank you for the help.

[DEEBS11]

Your least likely problem is the plugs. Most likely are the pick-up coil wires.

[LoftCol]

Thanks DEEBS11 for the images of the genuine and fake spark plugs, I have never brought spark plugs over the internet always from a motor parts supplier. Now I will check the the ones I have as if it may be the cause of of some misfiring issues, especially as I have checked everything else. Thanks again