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  • antwan26
    XSive
    • Jan 2024
    • 22

    #16
    Originally posted by cajun31

    Yes the older models did have a shaft protruding and had a handle stored on the bike. If we are correct about your engine being a 1980LG it did not have the kick starter gear and they plugged the clutch cover basket like you have. Try to take close up pictures of the carbs. I am really curious to see what kind of caliper is mounted on the front right side.
    sounds good - I’ll post those ASAP. Thank you!

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    • antwan26
      XSive
      • Jan 2024
      • 22

      #17
      See attached photos. Thanks everyone so much!

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      • EvelKeevil
        XSive
        • Aug 2021
        • 47
        • Keevil, Wiltshire, England

        #18
        Originally posted by antwan26
        See attached photos. Thanks everyone so much!
        It started off life as an LG - Midnight Special.

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        • antwan26
          XSive
          • Jan 2024
          • 22

          #19
          Originally posted by EvelKeevil

          It started off life as an LG - Midnight Special.
          Can you tell what parts are/aren’t original? Carbs.. ect. Anxious to order parts. Is the midnight better then the standard?

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          • cajun31
            Moderator
            • Oct 2003
            • 1823
            • Brandon, MS

            #20
            Originally posted by antwan26
            See attached photos. Thanks everyone so much!
            The serial numbers match and for sure the bike is a 1980 LG model. The carbs are not original. Seems you don't have a front brake caliper either. You do have a rear brake pedal, so I am assuming the oem rear brake system is still in place. The question is what is the lever and front master cylinder controlling? Like was mentioned previously, it will be difficult to order parts until you definitively know what you have. Maybe someone will recognize or identify parts with the new pictures. To answer your question concerning the midnight versus standard, I would say that question is an objective one. I for instance have never owned a standard and always liked the look of the specials of which the midnights are one of the specials. Some will argue the standard is faster. I have no reference point to verify that claim or not. I will say the bike you have was only made in 1980. There is also a 1981LH model Midnight Special and it shares a lot with the 1980 model, but much was changed between the two years. You need to decide for yourself how much money you want to put into the bike and what you want it to ultimately be. I am a purist; and my goal would be to bring it back to its original specs. Availability of parts is the problem. They are getting scarcer to find and when you do find them they generally sell at a premium.
            2 - 80 LGs bought one new
            81 LH
            02 FXSTB Nighttrain
            22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
            Jim

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            • antwan26
              XSive
              • Jan 2024
              • 22

              #21
              Originally posted by cajun31

              The serial numbers match and for sure the bike is a 1980 LG model. The carbs are not original. Seems you don't have a front brake caliper either. You do have a rear brake pedal, so I am assuming the oem rear brake system is still in place. The question is what is the lever and front master cylinder controlling? Like was mentioned previously, it will be difficult to order parts until you definitively know what you have. Maybe someone will recognize or identify parts with the new pictures. To answer your question concerning the midnight versus standard, I would say that question is an objective one. I for instance have never owned a standard and always liked the look of the specials of which the midnights are one of the specials. Some will argue the standard is faster. I have no reference point to verify that claim or not. I will say the bike you have was only made in 1980. There is also a 1981LH model Midnight Special and it shares a lot with the 1980 model, but much was changed between the two years. You need to decide for yourself how much money you want to put into the bike and what you want it to ultimately be. I am a purist; and my goal would be to bring it back to its original specs. Availability of parts is the problem. They are getting scarcer to find and when you do find them they generally sell at a premium.

              Thank you for your reply! I appreciate the feedback. I’m all seriousness, I just want to get it on the road - I am by not a purist and would happily order aftermarket / non OEM parts to get it running again. I’ll probably do a deep dive of the bike and see what all Is there/isn’t there and make the determination on wether or not to fix it. I know that it rolls in neutral, fluids appear to be clean. Hopefully it isn’t a dumpster fire when I open it all up. Thanks again

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              • bikerphil
                Master of XSology
                • Jan 2008
                • 8700
                • South Flori-DUH

                #22
                I would ditch the forks, even if you can figure a way to mount a left caliper on there, that still won't be enough stopping power for that heavy bike.
                2H7 (79) owned since '89
                3H3 owned since '06

                "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                • antwan26
                  XSive
                  • Jan 2024
                  • 22

                  #23
                  Originally posted by bikerphil
                  I would ditch the forks, even if you can figure a way to mount a left caliper on there, that still won't be enough stopping power for that heavy bike.
                  I’d like to get it running first - then go from there. Does anyone know what’s the process of turning over the bike? I know I’ll need a new battery - but does anyone have any recommendations on where to start? Thanks again everyone!

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                  • DiverRay
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 7657
                    • Star, IDAHO

                    #24
                    Not knowing what condition it's in I'd go this way.
                    1. Can you turn the engine over with a wrench on the timing plate with the spark plugs removed. Yes, continue, no, junk.
                    2. Put about 2 ounces of oil in each plug hole and let it set overnight.
                    3. Pull Valve cover and check for movement with all valves. Check clearance while cover is off if valves look good.
                    4. If things are good to this point you can start thinking about carb rebuild and battery.
                    Ray Matteis
                    KE6NHG
                    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                    • DEEBS11
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Feb 2023
                      • 1559
                      • Connecticut

                      #25
                      Slap a front end on the bike and put some miles on it. Here is a Special front end to bring the bike back to stock. Cheap. To bring that Midnight back to original stock would be economically unfeasible based on what is missing from your bike. However, you could find a piece here and there over the next ten years to make it a show winner if you choose. In the mean time - Slap a front end on it and ride it. You will lose interest if you do not fall in love by riding the motorcycle. I can attest to that. P.S.-Many, many front end parts cheap for that bike (non Midnight/stock Special) on eBay. It looks like you will need a rear fender & tail light as well.

                      https://www.ebay.com/itm/40472513817...Bk9SR8iJnJKiYw

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                      • DEEBS11
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1559
                        • Connecticut

                        #26
                        Top clamp.




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                        • DEEBS11
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Feb 2023
                          • 1559
                          • Connecticut

                          #27
                          One last bit of advice. Paint your stock Special parts black. Now it's a Midnight.

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                          • DEEBS11
                            XS-XJ Guru
                            • Feb 2023
                            • 1559
                            • Connecticut

                            #28
                            This is an indication of the skill level of the previous owner. Hackmaster.

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                            • DEEBS11
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 1559
                              • Connecticut

                              #29
                              Side cover.





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                              • DEEBS11
                                XS-XJ Guru
                                • Feb 2023
                                • 1559
                                • Connecticut

                                #30
                                NOS rear fender




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