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  • MechanicalRebel
    XSive
    • Sep 2022
    • 16
    • Nebraska

    #1

    Murray Carb's

    Planning on saving money and buying murray's carbs. While my bike runs great the carbs the carbs need a lot of work and nothing I do will give me better fuel mileage (estimated im getting 20 mpg). How do I go about my vacuum advance with these carbs. TIA.

    1981 xs1100sh
  • e30 gangsta
    Truly XSive
    • Mar 2016
    • 141
    • Lone tree, Colorado

    #2
    Don't waste your time with those carbs they're junk. Buy mikuni rs36's instead.
    80 XS1110 SG, RD400

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    • Schming
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Jul 2009
      • 2070
      • Pittsburgh,PA

      #3
      Originally posted by e30 gangsta
      Don't waste your time with those carbs they're junk. Buy mikuni rs36's instead.
      Do the RS carbs fit with the stock air box ?
      1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
      1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
      1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
      1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
      1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

      Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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      • oldyam80sg
        XS-XJ Guru
        • Apr 2007
        • 2041
        • Hackettstown , New Jersey

        #4
        Or ZRX carbs or do what I did and get 96 Kawasaki GPZ 1100 carbs.
        1980 XS1100 SG
        Inline fuel filters
        New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
        160 mph speedometer mod
        Kerker Exhaust
        xschop K & N air filter setup
        Dynojet Recalibration kit
        1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
        1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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        • Bonz
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Apr 2008
          • 3206
          • Palmer Lake, Colorado

          #5
          I am struggling to reconcile "The bike runs great" and "20 mpg". It's not a vacuum advance issue. What exhaust are you running, airbox or pods?

          ZRX carbs are a much better option than flatslides of any kind.

          Oldyam80sg, how's the ZRX/GPZ carb swap going?
          Howard

          ZRX1200

          BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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          • e30 gangsta
            Truly XSive
            • Mar 2016
            • 141
            • Lone tree, Colorado

            #6
            Flat slides are much better than any cv style carb. Especially if they're tuned correctly. You cannot compare them. The difference in performance is huge.
            80 XS1110 SG, RD400

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            • oldyam80sg
              XS-XJ Guru
              • Apr 2007
              • 2041
              • Hackettstown , New Jersey

              #7
              Bonz-the carbs are ready to go.I just yesterday put on the stock Yamaha carbs to ride the bike to my Moms house. I just need a free day as I was called into work. Once the bike is at my Moms house,the swap will happen.
              1980 XS1100 SG
              Inline fuel filters
              New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
              160 mph speedometer mod
              Kerker Exhaust
              xschop K & N air filter setup
              Dynojet Recalibration kit
              1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
              1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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              • Bonz
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Apr 2008
                • 3206
                • Palmer Lake, Colorado

                #8
                Not debating flat slides are a better performance modification. That wasn't part of your original post. Adding that info at this point changes the lens we are looking at this through. What is the performance gain you are expecting? There must be a number you're comparing to the stock carbs because of your statement.

                Are you trying to make the XS1100 keep up with more modern bikes? A 605 pound two valve head 1100 that's 40 years old isn't your huckleberry.

                The Murray set up is two carbs, each feeding adjacent cylinders. You need a vacuum port to run the vacuum advance, don't know how that may work given that set up with vacuum pulses coming through the runners at different times. Find a place you can put in a fitting in those runners and run your line up to it. Try it.

                With that said, I disagree with the statement. "Nothing I do will give better gas mileage". Nothing you have done to this point has done better. 20 mpg is literally dumping gas through the engine.

                Howard

                ZRX1200

                BTW, ZRX carbs have the same spacing as the XS11... http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35462

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                • LAB3
                  XSive Maximus
                  • May 2022
                  • 677
                  • Traveling the U.S. with no permanent address

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bonz

                  20 mpg is literally dumping gas through the engine.
                  I've just spent the better part of the month hitting all the twisties in the smoky mountains and no matter how hard I run my bike I couldn't get down to 20mpg.
                  1980 XS1100G

                  Intelligent people discuss ideas, average people discuss events, petty people discuss other people.

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                  • Ranger_xs1100
                    XSive Maximus
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 716
                    • Pittsburgh, PA.

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LAB3

                    I've just spent the better part of the month hitting all the twisties in the smoky mountains and no matter how hard I run my bike I couldn't get down to 20mpg.
                    No matter which one of my 11's I ride, I set the trip-odometer and stop to fuel up full every 100 miles. Always takes ~ 3 gallons (US).
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                    • oldyam80sg
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 2041
                      • Hackettstown , New Jersey

                      #11
                      Even if the carbs are dirty, I still got 32 mpg.Clean carbs will give good mileage. Also check air filter for dirt.You said in first post estimated you cant get 20 mpg-my 97 Jeep cherokee got 17+ and was way lot heavier than an XS.
                      1980 XS1100 SG
                      Inline fuel filters
                      New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                      160 mph speedometer mod
                      Kerker Exhaust
                      xschop K & N air filter setup
                      Dynojet Recalibration kit
                      1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                      1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                      • Tonyxs11
                        XStremely XSive
                        • Oct 2022
                        • 271
                        • Cumbria UK

                        #12
                        if we where talking about cars and fuel i could understand. but we are bikers here so fuel consumption shouldn't even be a thought !!!!! just get on it and ride

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                        • oldyam80sg
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 2041
                          • Hackettstown , New Jersey

                          #13
                          Amen Tony!!
                          1980 XS1100 SG
                          Inline fuel filters
                          New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                          160 mph speedometer mod
                          Kerker Exhaust
                          xschop K & N air filter setup
                          Dynojet Recalibration kit
                          1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                          1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                          • DiverRay
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 7602
                            • Star, IDAHO

                            #14
                            That's true, Tony. But you do need to look at what he is saying, 20mpg instead of the 30+mpg most of us get. You do NOT want unburned gas going past the rings and into the oil. If it is burning it, you will know by the smoke out of the exhaust and lack of power.
                            Ray Matteis
                            KE6NHG
                            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                            • Tonyxs11
                              XStremely XSive
                              • Oct 2022
                              • 271
                              • Cumbria UK

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DiverRay
                              That's true, Tony. But you do need to look at what he is saying, 20mpg instead of the 30+mpg most of us get. You do NOT want unburned gas going past the rings and into the oil. If it is burning it, you will know by the smoke out of the exhaust and lack of power.
                              yeah true Ray, but I must admit the way I used to ride 20mpg would of been good im a bit more sedate these days.

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