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    I rode the bike today and upon startup, get a popping out the carbs where the airbox would go(I have a filter setup). Goes away after a few minutes. I also am seeing the #4 carb boot is cracked and looks like it is sweating when it warms up. It looks wet but are these 2 things related? The other boots don't look half as bad. Also get a slight blue smoke upon warming up. I recently syphoned oil out as stated in a previous post due to overfilling. Plugs are nice light brown in color.
    1980 XS1100 SG
    Inline fuel filters
    New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
    160 mph speedometer mod
    Kerker Exhaust
    xschop K & N air filter setup
    Dynojet Recalibration kit
    1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
    1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

  • #2
    I had a similar issue on my GS--#4 would pop out of the back of the carb on choke, and got hot faster than the others--I figured it was lean on startup/under choke, and now before starting I make sure the bike is level and prime the carbs completely. Problem basically went away. Different carbs (VM's), maybe won't help but might be worth a try.
    1979 XS1100F
    1978 Suzuki GS750E

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    • #3
      Originally posted by oldyam80sg View Post
      I rode the bike today and upon startup, get a popping out the carbs where the airbox would go(I have a filter setup). Goes away after a few minutes. I also am seeing the #4 carb boot is cracked and looks like it is sweating when it warms up. It looks wet but are these 2 things related? The other boots don't look half as bad. Also get a slight blue smoke upon warming up. I recently syphoned oil out as stated in a previous post due to overfilling. Plugs are nice light brown in color.
      Need more details. Is the bike at operating temperature or not when the popping occurs. Are you still on choke or not? Generally popping at the carbs indicates out of tune carb. The smoke should go away eventually if the only problem was too much oil. The carb intake manifold looking wet puzzles me. Could be that carb float is stuck and the carb is flooding but if that were the case you should see that. When the oil was too full it wasn't due to gas overflow was it?
      2 - 80 LGs bought one new
      81 LH
      02 FXSTB Nighttrain
      22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
      Jim

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      • #4
        HI Old Yam,,,,suggest spray some carb cleaner around the boot and vac lines while its running to see if there is a leak, if no change in idle speed, do a carb balance/synch with whatever gauges you have, I use the 4 vacuum gauges and it is easy and works great,,,,just connect to each vac post in each boot, flip to prime on petcock, idle and adjust.....there is lots of info to synch on the search section,,,,hope you get it figured out,,,Mike in San Diego/Pa.

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        • #5
          almost forgot,,,,,IF THERE IS ANY GAS IN THE OIL IT WILL POP,,,,I didnt know if you checked your oil but if there is any leakiing of the carbs into the crankcase the gas vapor will cause popping and run like CRa xxxp, maybe stick a stick into the oil in the oil fill plug and smell it,,,if it has any gas smell,,,,that indicates gas is getting in your oil,,,,you can also try lighting the oily stick with a match, if it lights up that also indicates gas in the oil,,,,easy fix, just change oil,,,,but you will have to check the float needles for leaking also.........good luck again,,,,Mike in San DIego

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          • #6
            The bike only pops on choke and then goes away when it warms up. The oil issue was me overfilling it. I checked the oil and no gas smell and I lit it on fire but didn't light. I put some RTV on boot # 4 to seal the crack in it until my new manifold boots arrive. The bike runs excellent, no hesitation whatsoever. I synced the carbs a month ago.
            1980 XS1100 SG
            Inline fuel filters
            New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
            160 mph speedometer mod
            Kerker Exhaust
            xschop K & N air filter setup
            Dynojet Recalibration kit
            1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
            1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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            • #7
              Originally posted by oldyam80sg View Post
              The bike runs excellent, no hesitation whatsoever. I synced the carbs a month ago.
              The guy who "Broke me in" on working on bikes had some sage wisdom.

              "My bike is making a funny noise"
              "Does it run OK?"
              "Yes"
              "Tighten the chin strap on your helmet so you don't have to listen to it"

              40+ year old bikes have their quirks, knowing that there's more to do (intake boots) you might wanna consider his advice!

              1980 XS1100G

              I identify as a man but according to the label on a package of Stauffers Baked Lasagne I'm actually a family of four!

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              • #8
                Waiting on my intake boots to come in.In the meantime ,I put some RTV on the cracked boot so will see today what the results are.
                1980 XS1100 SG
                Inline fuel filters
                New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                160 mph speedometer mod
                Kerker Exhaust
                xschop K & N air filter setup
                Dynojet Recalibration kit
                1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                • #9
                  Got to thinking about it. When gasoline evaporates the gasses get colder, that ight be what's causing the "sweat" you're seeing on that boot. Not sure if it's due to too lean or too rich, does the condensation smell like fuel?
                  1980 XS1100G

                  I identify as a man but according to the label on a package of Stauffers Baked Lasagne I'm actually a family of four!

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                  • #10
                    No condensation does not smell like fuel. I started the bike today after putting on the RTV yesterday and less popping. It seems to be coming with the air filter off at the air pilot jets.
                    1980 XS1100 SG
                    Inline fuel filters
                    New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                    160 mph speedometer mod
                    Kerker Exhaust
                    xschop K & N air filter setup
                    Dynojet Recalibration kit
                    1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                    1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by oldyam80sg View Post
                      No condensation does not smell like fuel. I started the bike today after putting on the RTV yesterday and less popping. It seems to be coming with the air filter off at the air pilot jets.
                      with everything you have described I would suspect that your pilot jet screws are not tuned optimally. The only reason I can think of that would cause the popping. I always tune by with the colortune. I turn them out until I see the first hint of orange then a half turn back in and they are good. When they are off you will experience popping as you have described.
                      2 - 80 LGs bought one new
                      81 LH
                      02 FXSTB Nighttrain
                      22 FLTRK Road Glide Limited
                      Jim

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                      • #12
                        I hate to start playing with pilot jet screws for 2 minutes of popping. Bike runs real good. I will take off the carbs to replace the intake manifold boots and look if anything might be dirty.
                        1980 XS1100 SG
                        Inline fuel filters
                        New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                        160 mph speedometer mod
                        Kerker Exhaust
                        xschop K & N air filter setup
                        Dynojet Recalibration kit
                        1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                        1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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                        • #13
                          If the bike isn't ridden that much, it could be the ethanol gas starting to "do it's thing" to the pilot circuit.
                          2H7 (79) owned since '89
                          3H3 owned since '06

                          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                          • #14
                            I took off the air filter today to observe what is happening. Each carb when it runs on half choke, puffs of air are felt when I put my hand close to the opening where the filter would go. It is mostly #2 and #3 carb. Occasionally #1 and #4.This lasts until the choke is pushed in all the way and then it stops when it is warmed up. The bike runs great without an issue. I know it was mentioned by Cajun to Colortune but don't like results that I have read on that.
                            1980 XS1100 SG
                            Inline fuel filters
                            New wires in old coils-outer spark plugs
                            160 mph speedometer mod
                            Kerker Exhaust
                            xschop K & N air filter setup
                            Dynojet Recalibration kit
                            1999 Kawasaki ZRX1100
                            1997 Jeep Cherokee 4.5"lift installed

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