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    my number one plug is jet black and smells like fuel. All the others look good. I just set all the float heights not too long ago, dialed the idle mix way down to 1.25 out, and checked for spark.

    What are some possible problems?
    '81 XS1100 SH

    Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

    Sep. 12th 2015

    RIP

  • #2
    1. #1 float sticking, causing flooding of #1 cylinder?

    2. #1 plug cap poor connection to wire, causing intermittent spark?


    Question: how is #3 plug?

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    • #3
      #3 looks good
      '81 XS1100 SH

      Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

      Sep. 12th 2015

      RIP

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      • #4
        I would take a close look at the float in #1. You may have one of the floats not quite lined up, and it could be "hanging up" on the carb body. This would cause a high fuel level and black plugs.
        Just my $0.02
        Ray
        Ray Matteis
        KE6NHG
        XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
        XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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        • #5
          If they are the brass floats it may have a pinhole in it. Shake it and listen for gas 'rattleing' inside.
          A bad float can be set right but won't 'float' at the correct (set) height.
          Pat Kelly
          <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

          1978 XS1100E (The Force)
          1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
          2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
          1999 Suburban (The Ship)
          1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
          1968 F100 (Valentine)

          "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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          • #6
            I have the plastic floats if that makes a difference.
            '81 XS1100 SH

            Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

            Sep. 12th 2015

            RIP

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            • #7
              Swap plugs around to check

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              • #8
                I did that too. The one from #1 gets cleaned and the plug that goes into#1 gets blackened.
                '81 XS1100 SH

                Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                Sep. 12th 2015

                RIP

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                • #9
                  Pull the #1 plug out and let it lay on the head, making sure it has a good ground. Crank the engine and look for a spark from that plug. Like Randy said, it could be a plug cap or a plug wire.

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                  • #10
                    Jesse,

                    What we're saying is take the plug wire from #4 and swap it with #1, and put a new plug in #1 and see if it still gets sooty, or if it moves to #4. If it moves to #4, then you know it's the wires, cap, or some such electrical situation. IF #1 stays sooty, then it's the carbs!
                    T.C.
                    T. C. Gresham
                    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                    History shows again and again,
                    How nature points out the folly of men!

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                    • #11
                      Are you saying unplug/replug the entire wires at both ends. Or, just unplug 1 and 4 from the plug only so that when 1 fires it does so in in the number 4 cylinder and when 4 fires it happens in the 1 cylinder?
                      '81 XS1100 SH

                      Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                      Sep. 12th 2015

                      RIP

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                      • #12
                        Just swap 1 and 4 wires with each other he means. Hold your finger over the plug hole to see if you have compression. Might be a pluged air vent in the #4 Carb.
                        "We are often so caught up in our destination that we forget to appreciate the journey." "

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                        • #13
                          OK... so I must not be understanding this correctly. If I am supposed to switch the entire wires, how do they disconect from the coil? Or, back to my misunderstanding, is it just that I am supposed to unplug the wire just from the spark plugs and switch those ends? I don't know how I am so confused by this.
                          '81 XS1100 SH

                          Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                          Sep. 12th 2015

                          RIP

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                          • #14
                            Hey Jess,

                            All you're supposed to do is unplug the wire/cap from the #4 plug, and stick it on the #1 plug, and vice versa for #1 wire/cap. The coil fires both of these at the same time, one for compression, one on the exhaust stroke=wasted spark.

                            So....doing this will allow you to test the wires and caps, so if the problem follows the wires, moves from #1 to #4, then you know it's in the wires/caps. BUT, if the problem stays with #1, then you know it's most likely the carbs, and the wires are okay!
                            T.C.
                            T. C. Gresham
                            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                            History shows again and again,
                            How nature points out the folly of men!

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                            • #15
                              ThanXS TC, Some say there are no stupid questions only stupid answers. Well, I hate to be the proof, but poor wording can make for a "stupid question."
                              '81 XS1100 SH

                              Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                              Sep. 12th 2015

                              RIP

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