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  • #31
    You can re-use pure copper washers ...

    I agree with DiverRay.
    When you torque your banjos, the copper washers are work-hardened. You can re-use pure copper washers, but only if you anneal (soften) them first. My usual method is to:
    1. Clean and inspect them. Reject them if they have any cracks or very deep grooves;
    2. use a common propane torch to heat them, one-at-a-time*, to cherry red color;
    3. quench it immediately in some room temperature, clean engine oil;
    4. remove the oil with solvent;
    5. rub it with some medium Scotch Bright to minimize the tarnish, then re-use it.

    The Method in my Bent-McKinley "Aircraft Powerplants" textbook:
    "Gasket Servicing.
    Used (copper) gaskets should be annealed by being heated to a cherry-red and immediately quenched in light motor oil. After the quenching, the oil should be removed with a solvent and the gaskets immersed in a solution of 50 percent nitric acid and 50 percent water to remove oxides. After the Acid bath, the gaskets should be carefully rinsed in running water and dried."
    They go on to say that new gaskets ARE better than used ones, so YOU make the choice!

    * I form a small hook on the end of an 8"-length of stainless steel wire to hold the copper gasket. If you use pliers, the heating is uneven. If you use your fingers, they hurt a lot afterwards! :O
    RLMcD
    XJ1100J Maxim (Arlington)
    Ruby Red
    XS1100E (no name yet)
    Macho Maroon

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    • #32
      Greetings,
      I would definitely be interested in a video!!!!!!
      To live is to ride and to ride is knowing how to live.

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      • #33
        "Oh, a tough guy, huh?"

        "If you're gonna slap me around... I like my hair pulled, too"
        (What a fun date SHE was!)
        Seems I've been broken and brought to my knees by the "Annealers"
        But, that was my reason for posting an outline and such; so that others could offer their ideas, mention things that I might have overlooked and to just generally put their boot on the back of my neck and grind my head into the dirt.
        (Why should I be serious all the time, don't I get enough of that at work?)
        Ok... A couple o' thoughts crossed my mind the last few days.
        I think TC mentioned that this might end up being a boxed set. He may prove to be correct. He's got an hour and a half of carb footage. Covering the repair of each component in the brake system could easily run the same or more, and someone else's electrical vidie, plus a tranny one, plus a ..... See where I'm goin"?

        Now, Robywan_Kenobe made a good point in his post "Asking a favor"
        My only issue is that alll the tips I have read are scattered all through the forum, bits and pieces everywhere. Is anyone that is experienced in doing this job willing to type up step by step instructions?
        I've also noted that when new members appear with questions... we keep repeating the same answers over and over, plus, the majority of them are already covered in the Tech Tips Section.
        Has anyone reread the tech section recently? A lot of good stuff in there, mostly written by members long since departed, but still valid. I had wished years ago, before I became a member (I hesitate to join clubs that would allow people like me to become members) that there were more articles, or more indepth tips, photos and such.
        A technical videotape would be nice, but is it really practical? I mean, do we really need live-action footage of everything? As far as brake systems go... Nothing really needs minute by minute coverage, but it would be fun to watch me in slow motion squeezing the brake lever with the master cover off and painting the ceiling with brake fluid.
        We've all marvelled at the technical photos posted by Ken, T.C., and many, many others, along with the accompanying commentaries.
        'zample: Two photos, one showing which bolts to remove, and then another showing the clutch area with an arrow highlighting the part in question would serve the same purpose as watching a vidie that included him draining the oil, unscrewing bolts, etc.
        A "down the barrel" view of a master cylinder and an array of the tools used serves the same purpose as a ten minute video shot of me removing the c-clip holding the plunger in the master cylinder.
        As long as the commentary is detailed, would make very little difference whether is was written or verbal.
        A video/CD would be a neat idea, but there are drawbacks, as well. Two that come to mind are: Most people don't have TVs and VCRs in their garage or on their driveways, and secondly, I have a voice like a goat and a face to match.
        Big plus for a written commentary accompanied by photos is: One can print it out and take it to the garage, photos and all. One can quickly reread a section instead of having to rewind. And if the mood strikes, one can always print out stuff and carry it in a saddlebag if it makes them feel more secure.
        The tech section can be expanded as new articles come in, where as the early videos/CDs would become dated rather quickly. An example would be the annealing posts. ("Oh, how that burns me!") There would have been no mention of that in my brake series, but it could be easily appended in the tech section.
        The tech section has a lot of article and photos. The site moderators, not I, would know if this site can handle a lot more stored in there. To me... the term bandwidth only refers to my increasing waistline, so I can't comment on the feasability of loading up the tech area.
        Now that I've dashed peoples dreams of stardom and breaking into show business... what are everyones thoughts?
        "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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        • #34
          Hey, no offense ...

          prometheus578,
          You're right: tips need to be put into the right place on the site.
          'sorry, I didn't mean to step on your "training video" toes!
          RLMcD
          XJ1100J Maxim (Arlington)
          Ruby Red
          XS1100E (no name yet)
          Macho Maroon

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          • #35
            No toes broken

            Thanks Rick, but I'm about as thick-skinned as I am thick-headed. ...just the ramblin's of a frustrated writer.

            Sort of goes in line with my comment about just updating and reworking the tech section. If you'll look at the other items there, you'll note that there's a main article, then usually several other posts with additional info and options.
            Due to this flexability, I'm more inclined to say that the written word with photos may be better in the long run than a training video that would be impossable to update once sent out.
            A Brake Repair section would easily encompass "Additional Thoughts on Annealling"; By Rick and DiverRay

            Not too many people have written since I posted my last treasonous letter, so mayhaps it was I that did the toe steppin"
            Any thoughts from anyone?
            "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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            • #36
              Hey Prom,

              No sweat, you walk on the tops, I'll walk on the bottoms!

              Well, I have to disagree in that I think that many/most folks will be happy to have the VIDEOS, so that they can see how the parts fit, come apart, and such! My idea of a GENERAL INFO type video would still be a viable and requested item.

              Then, IF they have further questions about techniques, etc., that they've seen on the DVD, they can still come here and discuss it in whatever DETAIL they want to!

              Just like the MANUALS are still important to have, and even though they probably haven't been updated in 20 years, they are still valuable sources of information and instruction. But that's why we come here, to get MORE info and ideas!!

              ching, ching,.....the sound of my 2 cents hitting the slot!!
              T.C.
              T. C. Gresham
              81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
              79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
              History shows again and again,
              How nature points out the folly of men!

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              • #37
                Hey T.C.

                manuals are great, but seldom show "tricks of the trade".

                I've doing what I do for 24 years, been training other machanics off and on for about 20. I've found that using the manuals and demonstrating works best.

                go for the video

                mro

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                • #38
                  what do you mean no tv?

                  hey step up or git runned over ,man i got a tv on my porch in my shed uh uh garage and dvd vcr,don't forge t the microwave too.right next to my suround sound system,man i love theaater sound.
                  1982 XJ 1100
                  going strong after 60,000 miles

                  The new and not yet improved TRIXY
                  now in the stable. 1982 xj11, 18,000miles

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                  • #39
                    what do you mean no tv?

                    No kidding, 'what do you mean no TV?” I've got a computer sitting not 5 ft from where my XJ is parked in my shop. It is networked to the other computers in the house. It has an 'always on' satellite Internet connection (so I can check the messages here) and has a DVD drive in it for the movies I watch while working on the bike, when I'm not listing to the one of the apx. 1500 song stored on it that plays through the stereo amp connected to it! Also it controls the CNC milling machine I built. The microwave is on a shelf over the computer and a Mr. Coffee is next to it. All I need now is a refrigerator, and I'll never have to go back to the house!


                    Louis
                    "There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it cannot be overcome by
                    brute strength and ignorance" And possibly some Mouse Milk!
                    '82 XJ1100J
                    LED Dir and running lights
                    LED Tail/Brake lights (4) one flashing
                    Modulated H/L
                    PIAA Driving lights
                    YICS Eliminated
                    750 FD

                    Yamaha Factory X-1 Fairing and Luggage

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                    • #40
                      Man... youse guys rock!!
                      And I thought hookin' up that 8-track player I bought from Goodwill last week was 'slicker than snot on a door knob'!
                      "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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                      • #41
                        Re: what do you mean no tv?

                        Originally posted by lsippell
                        The microwave is on a shelf over the computer and a Mr. Coffee is next to it. All I need now is a refrigerator, and I'll never have to go back to the house!


                        Louis
                        Don't forget being able to do what dogs can do, that we can't.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Re: what do you mean no tv?

                          Originally posted by John

                          Don't forget being able to do what dogs can do, that we can't.

                          Lick ourselves?
                          Pat Kelly
                          <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

                          1978 XS1100E (The Force)
                          1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
                          2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
                          1999 Suburban (The Ship)
                          1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
                          1968 F100 (Valentine)

                          "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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                          • #43

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                            • #44
                              .. uh oh, looks like another thread heading for the toilet!
                              [i like those]
                              .... l
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                              • #45
                                Lights... camera... inaction.

                                Ok... I've found my brother's old video camera; seems to still work, but I don't know about the audio stuff yet.
                                I think that ...instead of jumping in with the "Brake System" video, I should start with a practice video... "How To Clean Your Garage"

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                                (Another fine example of someone shamelessly finding any weak excuse to post a pic of their bike)
                                And before all you critics start raggin' about the oil spot... Yes, I've got a crack in the cylinder above the tensioner. So there... can't make fun o' my bike now. (well... there IS the paint job issue)
                                "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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