oil filter O-ring

[oldnortonrider]

Does anybody know where to find the correct size O-ring to
fit the oil filter cannister? The last 2 Fram filters that I've gotten (from DennisKirk),
the O-ring was a small bit, too large; wouldn't stay in the cannister groove. I'm not familiar with what other brand of filter, comes with the O-ring.

This has gotta be a common problem with a whole lot of XS11 riders; I've never seen it discussed. I've had to keep using the same O-ring, now, for about 5 years.

[Pat Kelly]

Due to not being able to find a Fram, I've been using STP oil filter. Cannister O-ring is right, smaller bolt O-ring is too thin.

[oldnortonrider]

Right.........>now, I do remember getting an STP filter, a few years
ago, at Autozone; cannister O-ring wuz right (like you said), and
I was curious about the smaller O-ring, not being "fat" enough.

Thanks for the info and reminder.

[Pat Kelly]

I guess the trick is to alternate Fram / STP and replace each O ring every other oil change .

[Hobbit]

O-ring

I use a small film of wheel bearing grease or Vasoline on the o-ring to hold it in place. It's worked for me for years on many different applications.

[John]

Warming the O ring will help also. It will flatten out when warm. Then apply a little grease to hold it in place.

[TopCatGr58]

OR you could solve this problem permanently by installing a Spin-on Oil Filter Adaptor!

Disclaimer: Shameless plug, still have 5 left from latest batch!
T.C.

[Pat Kelly]

I was reading a thread on the triples site about the SOOFA. Seems they think it's an idea that's not worth the potental trouble. They feel the stock set-up is really no big deal for changing. They also commented on less oil in the system (1/4 oz maybe?).
Just relaying their thoughts.

[xs650mike]

I recently installed a Wix filter and the o-ring was too big. I just re-used the old one. Every time I bought Yamaha filters for my XS400SJ or XJ750RH they didn't come with o-rings...I suppose Yamarobber wants you to pay an exhorbitant extra price for the o-rings as well as the filter. I've never replaced the o-rings on my 400 and at 55k miles it's still not leaking. I never replaced the o-rings on my XJ750 either for 85k miles and it never leaked either. Go figure.

[TopCatGr58]

Hey Pat,

Well, I guess I won't expect any business from the Triples then eh? I'm not making these things for any kind of profit, just trying to provide an alternative to the OEM PITA! I'm just sorry that you weren't able to have a successful install.

Aside from having a leak, not sure what OTHER potential troubles they are concerned with? The filters have built in bypasses, and they are quite tough, would take a pretty serious impact to cause it to rupture?

Didn't mean to hijack this thread. I've gotten Orings with the filters I've gotten, and they fit just fine. Just can't remember which brand I had gotten, but think it was STP's!? It was many years ago since I had to change one that way!
T.C.

[CWilliamson]

Hada xs850...

headers were ALWAYS in the way of the filter when changing it. Would start the process when the pipes were hot and the headers seemed to be out of the way but after they cooled down I guess they flexed back in the way.

[Pat Kelly]

I found nothing wrong with the SOOFA. I'm sure the leak was my fault (hence it working for another lister).
In my application I felt it would hang too low (the bike already scrapes entering my driveway).
Time to change oil on all 3 bikes. Both my XSs and wifes XV. Hers is much more a PITA. The right footpeg mount has to be removed to get to the allen screws that hold on her oil filter cover. Then she has 3 orings. I'm glad she's "SWMOB".

[DiverRay]

If you do have any FRAM oil filters, be happy. FRAM is NO LONGER building ANY motorcycle filters. I found this out the last time I tried to order a few extra filters for my XS. I never did have much problems with the "O" rings, but I've been doing oil changes for a few years, on a number of vehicles. I knew about grease to hold the "O" ring, and it works great.
Ray

[TopCatGr58]

Hey DiverRay,

Are you talking about the uncased filters, like the OEM kind, or is it ALL bike filters, like the 6017A? Where have you gotten this info? Not that we don't want to believe you, but would like to see a published report or such!?
T.C.

[Ken Talbot]

You can build your own o-ring with a generic o-ring from an industrial parts supplier (or somebody like Napa, etc) and just a wee dab of Loctite 404. This stuff works well for gluing rubber to rubber. Buy an o-ring of the same thickness but of a larger diameter than what you need. Cut it, and use the housing as a guide to figure where your second cut needs to be to get the desired diameter.