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  • 79sf Vacuum Diaphragms

    I've noticed on EBay the new vacuum diaphragm assemblies being sold for various XS models.

    Problem is, I've never seen anything for the 79sf. Are the diaphragm assemblies for it different mm size or something like that?

    I sure would like a new set but am wondering what's the best route to go.

    Ben
    1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
    1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
    1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
    1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
    1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

    Formerly:
    1982 XS650
    1980 XS1100g
    1979 XS1100sf
    1978 XS1100e donor

  • #2
    Ben;
    The 79SF is the same as the 78 and 79 standard. Just look for the 78/79 XSEleven diaphrams. You may want to check and verify that you still have the proper carbs. The 80 up are different as they don't have the same needles.
    Part # for 78/79 2F3-14040-00-00
    Part # for 80 3H5-14040-00-00
    Ray
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • #3
      Good idea. I remember swapping the carbs, but I think the swap was between 78 and 79.

      Ben
      1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
      1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
      1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
      1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
      1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

      Formerly:
      1982 XS650
      1980 XS1100g
      1979 XS1100sf
      1978 XS1100e donor

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      • #4
        You can check out BikeBandit.com.

        I was looking the other day under the OEM search. Click the Carburator tab. There is a exploded view of the carbs. They show what has been discontinued and what I believe may still be able to get. They list part# 21390-001 for $134.52 You can check it out if you want. Hope this helps.
        Chris

        79 XS1100 Standard aka: Mutt
        87 Honda TRX350D 4X4: Old Blue!
        93 NewYorker Salon: Sleeper...
        71 RoadRunner 440 Magnum: Mean Green!
        69 Charger 440 Magnum: Pleasure Ride!

        Gimme Fuel Gimme Fire!

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        • #5
          Several years ago I tried to spend $450+ on new assemblies from BikeBandit. They never shipped. Probably a good thing, that's a HIGH price for 'em.

          Now though, with a bit more income, a new set sure would be nice. Plus, I've ordered half a dozen times from BB lately and they are FAST and surprise me with what they can get. I got an OEM fuel petcock for a 73 Suzuki, for one.

          Ben
          1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
          1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
          1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
          1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
          1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

          Formerly:
          1982 XS650
          1980 XS1100g
          1979 XS1100sf
          1978 XS1100e donor

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          • #6
            Hey there Ben,

            Regrettably, the 78-79 carb slides don't interchange with the 81's! I just went to the garage, and put a caliper on both of the slides, and the 81's are almost a 1.5mm larger diameter than the 79! Too bad, cause you can get the 81 series for $64.95 from MikesXS!

            BTW, the proper Yam # is:
            79SF vaccum slides: 2F3-14940-00-00

            If you'll go to www.cycle-parts.com, do a search for the above #, you'll find them for $120.40 ea, a bit cheaper than BB!
            T.C.
            T. C. Gresham
            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
            History shows again and again,
            How nature points out the folly of men!

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            • #7
              I saw a box of good used Diaphrams at Merriam Cycle But who could ever guess how much they would be. I know he has new ones but don't know how much.
              "We are often so caught up in our destination that we forget to appreciate the journey." "

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              • #8
                Well, it's interesting to think about the size differences. I personally like the older carbs. I can adjust everything, even the jet needles. On my former 80g carbs, I couldn't fiddle as much but could find replacement parts.

                I guess that's the trade off. Why would the 79's be smaller?

                Why would smaller/earlier diaphragms go for twice the cost?

                Ben
                1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
                1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
                1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
                1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
                1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

                Formerly:
                1982 XS650
                1980 XS1100g
                1979 XS1100sf
                1978 XS1100e donor

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                • #9
                  Well, Ben,

                  As for the increased cost of the older ones, I would think it's because they are more complicated, with the adjustable needles, perhaps a few more parts vs. the newer ones!?

                  Couldn't tell you why Yamaha changed the design, not a carb guru! Don't know if the larger/wider slide would rise slower or faster? Probably something to do with emissions!?
                  T.C.
                  T. C. Gresham
                  81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                  79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                  History shows again and again,
                  How nature points out the folly of men!

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