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    Was on my way to Destin FL last week and ran into a big guy named Dennis (hurricane) who made me go east to Myrtle Beach. I trailered my bike down b/c I had the wife and 6 month old with me. Had a great time riding around on the beach put on alot of miles.

    Stopped in front of a place to get breakfast one morning and on the way out went to grab the bars so that my wife could get on the bike. Well the bike just fell over into my arms. luckily I had just finished eating my wheaties and I held the bike up.

    Upon further investigation the bolt that holds on the side stand had come out!! I went to NAPA and got a bolt that fits in and does OK, but there is a lot of play. I guess that the original is only threaded up close to the head of the bolt? Anyone got a source for a spare?

    Funny part is that with the 4-1 I have no centerstand!! Had to have someone follow me to NAPA and hold her up in the parking lot!
    Travis Miller
    1978 E

  • #2
    Hey Travis,

    That bolt and nut combo is still available, here's the OEM Yamaha #'s, and the Bike Bandit #'s and prices:
    90109-10473-00 BOLT, SIDE STAND
    95301-10700-00 NUT, HEXAGON

    Bike Bandit:
    6: BOLT 343690-001 $2.75
    7: NUT ((M/T)) 363336-001 $2.15
    T.C.
    T. C. Gresham
    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
    History shows again and again,
    How nature points out the folly of men!

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    • #3
      Speaking of kickstands. A couple weeks ago something changed with using mine. It seems to be retracting to a more inboard location and is quickly wearing a groove into the side of the center stand when retracted.
      Can't visualize what is different to make it be doing that. Nothing looks to be bent or broken. The bolt is tight. There is a lot of in/out play via the spring which I don't know is any different than before. Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks
      80 SG
      81 SH in parts
      99 ST1100
      91 ST1100

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      • #4
        The sidestand bolt is a shoulder bolt. That is, it has a hex head, a long, unthreaded 'shoulder', and some threads at the other end. The bolt slips through one side of the sidestand bracket, though the sidestand itself (sidestand pivots on the unthreaded 'shoulder') and then threads into the other side of the sidestand bracket.

        I've found that the sidestand is softer than the bolt, so if there is slop or play in the sidestand it is most likely wear in the sidestand hole.

        In my case the XJ sidestand is just a bit different than the XS unit, couldn't find a good replacement. I ended up reaming out the sidestand hole and putting in a brass insert. You can home or drill the I.D of the insert to fit the shoulder bolt. I greased the shoulder bolt with a little white lithium grease when I reasembled it. Found the brass insert at a tractor supply store, but bet a piece of copper pipe would work as well. Insert was a bit long, but an angle grinder took care of that in a hurry.

        A little play can make quite a diffference on the angle your bike leans at when on the side stand.
        Jerry Fields
        '82 XJ 'Sojourn'
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        • #5
          With the bolt out of the sidestand, when I just hold the stand in position at the bike bracket there is a lot of inward/outward play. The bolt hole in the stand looks good (not elongated). Tha shoulder of the bolt show a little wear, slightly worn groove. I drew the two ends of the sidestand slightly more together in a vise. Does't seem to take up much of the slop. Don't think a new bolt will solve it but might give it a try. Must be overlooking something!
          80 SG
          81 SH in parts
          99 ST1100
          91 ST1100

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          • #6
            Hey Dean,

            I just looked at a couple of frames and center stands I have, and there really isn't anything specifically designed to stop the CenterStand once it is swung up except a little angled notch in the frame just behind where the CS bolts are, and a junction in the frame below the swingarm section!

            When I put my 4-1 pipes on, there was nothing to stop the CS from swinging up and hitting the center portion of the collector, so they provided a simple little piece of flat steel with a bend in one end, and a mounting hole in the other, mounted it to the left rear footpeg bracket so that it would make contact with the part of the CS that sticks out from the side..the part you put your foot on to put it up on the CS. That kept the CS from contacting the frame. You could get a piece of steel, "L bracket, even chromed piece of metal if you want and put it there to stop the CS from coming up too far against the frame.

            As for the SideStand, like you did, squeezing the open parts closer together, you may also try putting in a washer as a spacer to take up what remaining slack there is between the mounting piece and the part of the SS that mount to it, putting it on the INSIDE of the U shaped part of the SS! I had my SS lengthened to accommodate my front forks!
            T.C.
            T. C. Gresham
            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
            History shows again and again,
            How nature points out the folly of men!

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            • #7
              I had the same deal. So, I went to th hardware store and picked up a steel collar thingy (sorry dont remeber what its is called, maybe a shim?) that just barely went around the bolt, but was a nice tight fit in the kickstand mount holes. Worked great and ended up doing the same thing for my clutch and brake handles.
              '81 XS1100 SH

              Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

              Sep. 12th 2015

              RIP

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              • #8
                great idea.
                Travis Miller
                1978 E

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                • #9
                  Psst...

                  Originally posted by 81xsproject
                  I had the same deal. So, I went to th hardware store and picked up a steel collar thingy (sorry dont remeber what its is called, maybe a shim?) that just barely went around the bolt, but was a nice tight fit in the kickstand mount holes. Worked great and ended up doing the same thing for my clutch and brake handles.
                  (Whispering in your ear) It's called a bushing

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                  • #10
                    My 80G kickstand has a little round rubber bushing that slides over the foot lever. It's always been there. It keeps the kickstand from contacting the frame.
                    Missing Link
                    Keep the Shinny Side UP!!

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                    • #11
                      Have a helper follow you everywhere and hold the bike when you stop to do whatever. Pay him/her with a sandwitch every now and agian. And just think,, If you ever break down, There is always a ride waiting for you.
                      Actually,, What the other guys said works to.
                      S.R.Czekus

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