New look for xs11

[chevy45412001]

oh i c

yea no doubt a jack shaft is BRAINLESS on a bike that has chain drive. I was refering to the xs version of a 280-310 rear tire on a chopper. **** my 5 year old can put a big tire on a chain drive bike come on, I'm still waiting to see more of the guy who had the swingarm and chain drive conversion for the xs-xj. That's what i'm yapin bout.

[Geezer]

Back in the 1970's 4 cylinder choppers were pretty common. I built a 550 four Honda chopper with a Bartlet frame.

If you're willing to cut and weld in the rear drive into the frame and lengthen the shaft, the rest shouldn't be all that hard.

I'm not into choppers any more but with the great selection of Japanese bikes out there to chop, I'm suprised Harleys are the top bike to chop.

When I was turning wrenches at the Honda shop in Astoria, OR back in the 80's there was a guy in town that put a SOHC Honda 750 engine in a FLH bagger.

Geezer

[Bikeboy]

New frame

Here's a pic of the frame I will be using for my XS11 chopper project. Ordering it from Cycle One LTD. They will build to your specs. This is one they built for a customer who used a 750 Honda engine. Not sure if I will use this type of springer fork yet. The cost of the frame is $950.00 plus shipping $30.00. It will take about 3-4 weeks to build and 4-5 days to ship.

[Bikeboy]

New frame

Lets try this again.

[chevy45412001]

looks good

looks like a starting point to me.(bike boy hope your not mad,i meant nothing personel said before) I just like to see New things750 honda chops have been built ,personaly never saw an xs-xj choper with chain drive thats all. I know someone out there has to have the goods on a chain drive conversion? wire wheels to boot sweet.

[uk1.1s]

Nice frame

Yeah... see what you mean Bike-boy, a larger rear tyre is going to be an engineering feat if you want to go really large

The standard back ends are starting to look really dated now..more retro appeal, but not really "doing it" for me in the looks department.



In Europe the XJ900 Diversion has a shaft drive which, with a bit of work on the rear drive box and spacers - will bolt into the XS11. Allows the use of a slightly fatter back wheel, which may improve things.





If you really need to go the chain drive way though...you are not alone...how's this for a frame...





Unfortunately I'm just the messenger boy here (none of this is my secret project) .... but hopefully there's something to stimulate your creative juices !

See for the full monty....

[nmsraider]

hi there if any 1 found out the best way to put a fat boy wheel on be it chain or shaft conversion could u plz let me know
i have a custom unclue bunts chop frame with xs1100 engine in and only 130 rear wheel i have over 280 clearance between
any sugestions ?

[xj11DAN]

new look for xs

I have a 2003 vstar with a shaft drive, it has a 190 rear tire on it, I wonder how much different the shaft drive assembly is to the one on my XJ?????

[nmsraider]

yeah still trying to find out 190 wheel would do fine just cant find 1 or find any info as to what else would fit

[Dennyz]

The widest rear tire that will fit the XS frame, regardless of the drive system and swing arm is a 165mm, due to the width of the frame above the back tire being 170mm. If the rear part of the frame is modified, up to a 240mm would fit, due to the width of the swing arm pivots on the frame. With a custom frame and drive unit, the sky is the limit. Or, should I say the money is the limit!

[nmsraider]

its a custom frame uncule bunt with 280mm rear width

my question is will i be able to fit a bigger wheel say 180-200 to the bike with out having to alter all the final drive


to do this i mean by putting the shaft drive mount on the new rear wheel ?

[Dennyz]

correction, a 270mm is about the widest that will fit between the swing arm pivots (including room for a chain).

[Dennyz]

"my question is will i be able to fit a bigger wheel say 180-200 to the bike with out having to alter all the final drive"

Not likely. The problem starts at the middle drive. The center of the middle drive's output shaft is only about 80mm from the center of the motor. If you subtract the width of a drive shaft, say 10mm (1/2 of a 20mm drive shaft), you would have 70mm from center or 140mms of room for a tire. That is why the XS has a 130mm.

If the distance from the rear axle to the center of the middle drive u-joint where extended and another u-joint added at the final drive, it may be possible to get a larger tire and wheel. I have seen this done on rigid frame bikes.

[nmsraider]

yeah its a hard tail frame so do could u go in to detail on what i would have to do or know any web sites for this. cheers

[Dennyz]

Quote: "yeah its a hard tail frame so do could u go in to detail on what i would have to do or know any web sites for this. cheers"

I don't have any first hand experience with XS motors in hard tail frames. If you look up a few posting on this thread, to the picture of the yellow hard tail, you can see that he has kept the stock middle drive and final drive, but fabricated a custom drive line. It is about 3 times longer than stock and is external.

I am very interested in a wide tire solution (150mm-170mm for now). I don't want a hack job. I don't want to sacrifice reliability, safety, strength and looks. I think it is possible, though not very practical. My first attempt will be chain conversion to balance out the other modification I am doing. I won't be satisfied until I have a working shaft solution.