Missing cable to compress shocks on an XS11G

[gaffer77]

glad it helped i only saw it just before i came on here and i wondered what an earth it was ,when i read our prob it clicked and i hoped that was it ,i was too tired to do a translation ,but guessed that had to be it ,never seen or heard of one before like the other guy on here so hope this helped him as well

[pathfinder]

wire thing

I've got one and it is the easiest way to get tire off on the side of the road. Had a rear tire flat one time in the middle of nowhere. Took out the toolkit and used wire thing by feel in pitch dark had the tire off in less than 5 minutes. My 78E has a luggage rack so I even had to lean the bike over to get the tire out. Saved removing a whole bunch of bolts. Oh yeh stock exhaust goes beyond the axel bolt. I'd spend the $10. bucks plus freight to Scalded Dog in a heartbeat.

[fredintoon]

So that's what it's for!

The cable & lever were missing from my XS11SG toolkit too (or perhaps they were never there?)
Anyhow, by the 3rd time I pulled the back wheel I had gotten my backordered Clymer book that carefully told how to use the thing to remove the back wheel but never mentioned why it was necessary.
Before getting the book I had happily just pulled the wheel without using the device or even being aware of it's existence.
I did wonder why I should have needed it, some weird thing to do with spline alignment perhaps?
And now I know. The long mufflers on the Standard bikes get in the way. Simple as that. I suppose that if I had a Standard it would have been obvious.
Fred Hill, S'toon.

[newmaac]

Hey Ken, I have a couple of them.
Atleast one good used one, and one NOS.
I will part with one for a reasonable price, if you decide not to attempt making one.
Let me know. You can get me offlist, if you want to.

[gaffer77]

cable

fred in toon hi there ive looked in manual cant find anything in mine to explain how the cable works ,maybe im blind ,it says in one chapter go to another and this will give details go to that chapter and it says go to the other one can you give me page and chapter of description please mine is clymer but it may be newer or something if it is i want another one any ideas thanx

[randy]

Gaffer,

Take a look at the 'battery vent tube routing diagram' . That's where the cable useage diagram is on my 78F. The sticker is on the document holder under the left side cover. At least, on my 78 that's where it is. Location may vary.

HTH

Randy

[fredintoon]

which effin' manual?

Hi Gaffer,
I looked through my Clymer too and I can't find the diagram neither but I know I saw it somewhere.
If not Clymer then maybe the hardcover Haynes that I once borrowed through inter-library loans or possibly the CD that Rockjok sells for US$10 (plus postage to UK in your case)
rockjok@imt.net
Though that CD don't have an index that a computer-illiterate like myself can find and it's a tedious job to open it page by page.
As I remember the diagram,
first take off the seat, loop the single eye on one end of the cable over the small hook on the swingarm drive side & pass the cable over the frame tubes.
There's a hook on the brake side too. (now this bit is fuzzy in my memory) there is a double eye on that end of the cable. The lever uses one eye and a fulcrum point someplace to pull the swingarm up so the other eye will slip over the brakeside hook and hold the swingarm up.
Perhaps someone who has actually used the thing could post a "how to" ?
Fred Hill, S'toon.

[gaffer77]

thanx for that mines a 78 sf special panels have been sprayed and cant find a document holder on it ,i have the cd you are on about already maybe i should check it out ,i got clymer,cycle serve and soft bak haynes but lookin for the descriptions in some of them you end up tearing your hair out even if you know youve deffo seen something in them before ,the things you come across even after scanning them for a couple of years is baffling ,one minute its there and then its gone then low and behold its there again strange hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[newmaac]

Gaffer, You have me a little confused.
I didn't think that they even made a Special until 79, and if I am not mistaken, didn't the cable only come in the tool kit for the Standard?
I was under the impression that there was some modification on the Special swing arm, that made the cable unnecessary.
Does that sound familiar to anyone else?

[newmaac]

I just double-checked the parts list.
It shows part # 22810-001,(cable) on just the Standard.
It COULD have originally been included in the Special tool box as well, but I don't think so.

[gaffer77]

doh sorry my mistake ,i got different exhaust on my bike just let my mind catch up with all comments i got a 4-2 exhaust with wrong silencers dont know what they are,this could be causing my speed prob (other thread)as carbs may be not jetted to the exhausts properly thinkin about it,my bike was re registerd because its an import and just states approx yr of manufacture ,its all sinking in now,sorry to everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i was under impression these were original exhaust for bike ,well at least a pattern product ,and i have read the specials have shorter ones and also they have been bodged on a bit but fit 99% ok its all coming together now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[John]

The OEM mufflers on a Special ended just before the rear axle. There was no need for the S&M torture device.

[gaffer77]

HI FOUND THE DIAGRAM OF THE CABLE IN USE,IN CYCLE SERVE MANUAL,(UNDER SWING ARM REMOVAL)I CANT SEE IT IN IN HAYNES OR CLYMER,I ALSO FOUND IT IN A FACTORY SERVICE GUIDE I GOT,BASICALLY FOR ANYONE WHO DOESNT KNOW ,THERE ARE 4 EYES, PUT ONE EYE ON LEFT TAB (HOOK THING NEAR THE BOTTOM BOLT ON LEFT SHOCKER ,NEXT LIFT THE CABLE GO UP OVER THE TOP OF THE TYRE AND DOWN THE OTHER SIDE HOOKING ONE EYE ON A TAB BY THE SEAT SOMEWHERE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BIKE AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BIKE THEN YOU HAVE A LEVER WHICH GOES INTO THE FINAL EYE AND YOU LEVER DOWN TO LOOP IT IN TO THE TAB AND THEREFORE LIFT THE SWING ARM OR THATS HOW THE PICTURE LOOKS TO ME,IF YOU HAVE THE KIT THEN THIS SHOULD BASICALLY GET YOU SOMEWHERE NEAR FATHOMING IT OUT ,I DONT QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW TO PUT A PIC ON HERE ,OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE SORRY