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    I am doing the 1st gear fix on my xj and want to minimize oil leaks. I have used "form a gasket" and other variations with mixed results. Do these machines do better with actual gaskets or liquid? Of course I'm talking about side covers, oil pan, and the like, nothing that holds compression.
    "Galaxy" 1982 XJ1100J, 1983 XV handlebars, new fusebox, homemade SS wind screen and SS muffler heat shields, homemade grab bar extension and luggage rack. XS750 140 mph speedo, '81 Venture oil cooler, V-Max ACCT, Yahman YICS Eliminator, 1st and 2nd gear Dremel fix.

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    You can use a product called THE RIGHT STUFF, or the non-hardening permatex. I would NOT use a silicon based RTV, as it can "string" and get into oil passages.
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by XJkid View Post
      I am doing the 1st gear fix on my xj and want to minimize oil leaks. I have used "form a gasket" and other variations with mixed results. Do these machines do better with actual gaskets or liquid? Of course I'm talking about side covers, oil pan, and the like, nothing that holds compression.
      Deciding myself to not replace oil pan gasket, clutch cover gasket nor shift cover gasket, I got those areas super clean of any petroleum film and smeared a light film of Permatex brand of High Temp Grey silicone(light film so as not to have silicone squish out to inside as Ray stated). That was some 9yrs. ago, and since, not so much as a weep,seek nor leak.....plus I still have all those necessary OEM gaskets still in their original packaging.
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by motoman View Post
        Deciding myself to not replace oil pan gasket, clutch cover gasket nor shift cover gasket, I got those areas super clean of any petroleum film and smeared a light film of Permatex brand of High Temp Grey silicone(light film so as not to have silicone squish out to inside as Ray stated). That was some 9yrs. ago, and since, not so much as a weep,seek nor leak.....plus I still have all those necessary OEM gaskets still in their original packaging.
        I have done the same with the clutch cover. Just a thin bead, let it partially cure. Personally, I use a gasket for the valve cover. It is too difficult not to mess it up!
        Skids (Sid Hansen)

        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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        • #5
          Gasket or No Gasket

          I have done both. I've used the Ultra Grey RTV with much success. I've also used a gasket sprayed on both sides with Coppercoat spray adhesive with same good results. Ultra Gray RTV sealer works well, but makes future cover removal difficult.
          1981 XS1100H Venturer
          K&N Air Filter
          ACCT
          Custom Paint by Deitz
          Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
          Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
          Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
          Stebel Nautilus Horn
          EBC Front Rotors
          Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

          Mike

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          • #6
            I don't know if Ultra Gray RTV is similar to YamaBond/ThreeBond or not. ThreeBond is also GREY/White, but it's not like RTV in it's consistency. Have used it for ALL of the gasket surfaces on my machine, Oil Pan, Clutch, Shift, even the Valve Cover, no drips/runs/errors.

            T.C.
            T. C. Gresham
            81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
            79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
            History shows again and again,
            How nature points out the folly of men!

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