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  • Front Fork Seal Fix

    Hello again. Haven't been on the site for a while, but I decided to resurrect the old beast. No excuses, just got tired of working on the old bike. So, the reason I threw my hands up in disgust was after finally getting the brake lights, turn signals, brakes themselves and other minor issues fixed, the front fork seal started leaking on one side. I just replaced the blasted things, so I wasn't able to stomach doing it again. before I dig in to it, are there any tricks to getting a leaky seal to behave? I hope it is just some grit that got in there and can be easily cured without a major overhaul. Thoughts, ideas?
    1979XS1100SF
    K&N's and drilled airbox
    Jardine 4in1
    Dunlop Elite 3's
    JBM slide diaphragms
    142.5 main jets
    45 pilot jets
    T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
    750/850 FD mod.
    XV 920 Needle Mod.
    Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
    Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

  • #2
    Two things will cause a "quick" seal leak.
    1. Poor quality seals.
    I know some folks here have had problems with some of the aftermarket seals, but I don't remember what the brands are that work, or don't work. Help from someone??
    2. A problem with the front fork tube, usually a rust pit.
    ANY pits or bad spots in the fork tube WILL take out any seal in a hurry. If your not sure, use brakeclean on the tube to take all the oil off, keeping the brakeclean off the wiper/seal itself. Then take an old nylon from your wife/girlfriend/neighbor and run it up and down the tube. It WILL hang up on any imperfection on the tube.
    If this is the case, check andreas or ebay for used, or http://franksforks.com/products/yamaha-fork-tubes/ for new.
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Toolmaker Tim View Post
      Hello again. Haven't been on the site for a while, but I decided to resurrect the old beast. No excuses, just got tired of working on the old bike. So, the reason I threw my hands up in disgust was after finally getting the brake lights, turn signals, brakes themselves and other minor issues fixed, the front fork seal started leaking on one side. I just replaced the blasted things, so I wasn't able to stomach doing it again. before I dig in to it, are there any tricks to getting a leaky seal to behave? I hope it is just some grit that got in there and can be easily cured without a major overhaul. Thoughts, ideas?
      The trick of using a Seal-Saver will remedy the issue and keep you from having to take them apart. Any motorcycle dealer/supplier ususaly has them on their check-out counter. Used one myself on a couple occasions, and can be used over and over again.
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #4
        Sealmate

        I used the Sealmate tool this weekend on my Honda V65 forks:

        http://sealmate.net/

        The forks had been leaking so badly I had to stop and wipe them every 15 miles. I was disappointed because i just rebuilt these forks over the winter, about 300 miles ago.

        After using the tool, I rode 30 miles. One fork had no leakage, and the other had about one drop when I wiped it. It was a world of difference and the tool was very inexpensive (2pcs for $10).
        -Mike
        _________
        '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
        '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
        '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
        '79 XS750SF 17k miles
        '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
        '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
        '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

        Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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        • #5
          Thanks for the actual name correction Radioguylogs......my bad.
          81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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          • #6
            I have successfully used the 35MM film negative trick many times as shown in the video below. A piece of plastic soda bottle will work also. Remove and slide up the dust wiper out of the way before working on the seal.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5VSMP0Usc
            2H7 (79) owned since '89
            3H3 owned since '06

            "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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            • #7
              Thank You

              OK, have some thing to try. I was REAL careful how I handled the fork tubes and sliders when I first put it together. It may be that I do need to take the forks apart, but wanted to try any other options avalible first. If they work, great. If not..... at least I tried. Thank you for all the replies
              1979XS1100SF
              K&N's and drilled airbox
              Jardine 4in1
              Dunlop Elite 3's
              JBM slide diaphragms
              142.5 main jets
              45 pilot jets
              T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
              750/850 FD mod.
              XV 920 Needle Mod.
              Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
              Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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              • #8
                Sealmate

                Just ordered myself a Sealmate. Will post how it works as soon as I receive it. In the meantime, the other issues can be addressed
                1979XS1100SF
                K&N's and drilled airbox
                Jardine 4in1
                Dunlop Elite 3's
                JBM slide diaphragms
                142.5 main jets
                45 pilot jets
                T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
                750/850 FD mod.
                XV 920 Needle Mod.
                Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
                Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bikerphil View Post
                  I have successfully used the 35MM film negative trick many times as shown in the video below. A piece of plastic soda bottle will work also. Remove and slide up the dust wiper out of the way before working on the seal.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5VSMP0Usc
                  Excellent option Phil. Used to do the same decades ago on our moto-x bikes......and that was LONG before the invention of the Seal-Mate. We all always had a small strip of 35mm film JUST for that leaky seal scenario. The end catch slots of the 35mm film always caught and removed any debri caught in seal lip.
                  Last edited by motoman; 04-30-2018, 04:05 PM.
                  81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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