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  • rombat
    XSive
    • Sep 2010
    • 30
    • Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

    #1

    Carb Sync Trouble

    Trying to sync the carbs on my 1100xj. When I insert the YCIS tool the #2( octy port) vacuum goes way up and will not adjust. Without the blocking tool inserted the vacuum is even between #1 and #2. As I understand it the left screw syncs 1&2, the right screw syncs 3&4, and the center screw syncs the two sides to each other. I have done this bike before without this problem.
    1100 Maxim (daily rider)
  • rombat
    XSive
    • Sep 2010
    • 30
    • Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

    #2
    I was hoping someone could give me an idea what I am doing wrong. I synced the carbs yesterday, completely forgot to insert the YICS blocking tool. Took me 15 mins, all 4 level. Decided to redo the sycn properly today with the tool in place. As mentioned the #2 vacuum doubled in height (mercury tube) with block inserted. Adjusting the screw between 1&2 made no difference,yet it worked yesterday. I finally gave up. A buddy has a different sync tool that I will borrow someday and try again.
    1100 Maxim (daily rider)

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    • HalfCentury
      XStremely XSive
      • Oct 2015
      • 408
      • Burlington NC

      #3
      It is possible that one or more of your ports are dirty/blocked. The ports have to be open/clean for the YICS system to work. Get in there with the equivalent of a rifle barrel cleaning rig and some solvent/cleaner.

      I have owned an XJ650 and XJ1100 and did carbs and sync on both bikes.

      You should ask on xjbikes.com where the YICS is discussed in much detail.

      Some owners do not use the blocking tool and some owners do use the blocking tool.

      You will know you have proper sync when the bike pulls like a freight train on the road.
      82 XJ1100 - sold
      96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
      2000 ZRX1100 - sold
      2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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      • rombat
        XSive
        • Sep 2010
        • 30
        • Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

        #4
        Thanks. I brushed it out with a .375 nylon rifle brush before I started and again afterwards thinking the same thing as you, no difference.
        1100 Maxim (daily rider)

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        • HalfCentury
          XStremely XSive
          • Oct 2015
          • 408
          • Burlington NC

          #5
          How does it run with the blocking tool in place? It should run perfectly fine with blocking tool in place.
          82 XJ1100 - sold
          96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
          2000 ZRX1100 - sold
          2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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          • soccer4m
            XSive Maximus
            • Jul 2002
            • 694
            • san diego

            #6
            synch xj

            Hi Half century,,,,just a thought,,,I also have an xj1100 and have synched it with the yics blocking tool and without it,,,,it didnt make a difference. It should with the tool in as each carb can be adjusted individually, but I have done with it in and not in and could still adjust the synch. SOOOo, try it without it in and try to synch them, by turning the outer screws for the outer cylinder pairs I can hear them smoothing out and rpm increase when they are synched, then adjust the center screw for a nice smooth sound from the engine. Also maybe one of your gauges is messed up, I had one that died so try switching around the vac tubes to the gauges and see if that makes a difference,,,,go xj...Mike in SUn Diego
            mike
            1982 xj1100 maxim
            1981 venture bagger
            1999 Kawi Nomad 1500 greenie
            1959 wife

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            • HalfCentury
              XStremely XSive
              • Oct 2015
              • 408
              • Burlington NC

              #7
              My sample size is exactly 2 bikes; an XJ650 and an XJ100. Not enough to make any generalizations about everybody else's XJ bike.

              I do not think that the YICS port has a performance effect. I think that the YICS effect is emissions and backfiring (smoothness).
              82 XJ1100 - sold
              96 Honda Magna 750 - Girlfriend's bike
              2000 ZRX1100 - sold
              2003 FJR1300 - Silver rocket

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              • 3Phase
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • May 2008
                • 5529
                • Simi Valley, CA

                #8
                YICS Tool - Use It

                The YICS block-off tool makes a difference synchronizing the carburetors
                and adjusting the idle mixture screws:-

                Youtube / ThreeFaze / XJ1100 Carburetor Synchronizing ~ 40 seconds


                Without the YICS tool before sync and mixture screw adjustment:
                All 23 cmHg/hg

                With the YICS tool before sync and mixture screw adjustment:
                #1 25 cmHg
                #2 20 cmHg
                #3 17 cmHg
                #4 23 cmHg

                8 cmHg difference between high and low vacuum

                With the YICS tool removed after sync and mixture screw adjustment:
                All 20 cmHg
                -- Scott
                _____

                2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                1979 XS1100F: parts
                2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                • skids
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5046
                  • Florissant, CO, USA

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 3Phase
                  The YICS block-off tool makes a difference synchronizing the carburetors
                  and adjusting the idle mixture screws:-

                  Youtube / ThreeFaze / XJ1100 Carburetor Synchronizing ~ 40 seconds


                  Without the YICS tool before sync and mixture screw adjustment:
                  All 23 cmHg/hg

                  With the YICS tool before sync and mixture screw adjustment:
                  #1 25 cmHg
                  #2 20 cmHg
                  #3 17 cmHg
                  #4 23 cmHg

                  8 cmHg difference between high and low vacuum

                  With the YICS tool removed after sync and mixture screw adjustment:
                  All 20 cmHg
                  So it begs the question: If the carbs are synchronized with the tool, what good is the system? Is it for drifting out of synch???
                  Skids (Sid Hansen)

                  Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                  • 3Phase
                    XS-XJ Super Guru
                    • May 2008
                    • 5529
                    • Simi Valley, CA

                    #10
                    Originally posted by skids
                    So it begs the question: If the carbs are synchronized with the tool, what good is the system? Is it for drifting out of synch???
                    Unless the throttle shaft or adjuster screws are worn out then you really shouldn't have to fool with the YICS, sync and idle mixture. Once it's dialed in, it shouldn't change until you do something like R&R/clean/rebuild the carbs or change the valve shims.

                    Obviously, the synch and idle mixture adjustment will change slightly after you replace the cam chain, lap the valves, or hone the cylinders so you'll need the YICS tool to tune as the parts break in. After I reworked the engine in my XJ and took off for the Kremmling rally, I forgot to bring the tool and DiverRay brought his vacuum gauge set. I try to remember to keep it stashed on the frame now so it stays with the bike and there's no drama when I want to use it.
                    -- Scott
                    _____

                    2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                    1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                    1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                    1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                    1979 XS1100F: parts
                    2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                    • TopCatGr58
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 12650
                      • Portsmouth, Va.

                      #11
                      Hey Skids,

                      Read all about it here:



                      T.C.
                      T. C. Gresham
                      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                      History shows again and again,
                      How nature points out the folly of men!

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                      • skids
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5046
                        • Florissant, CO, USA

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TopCatGr58
                        Thanks TC, for my info.
                        Skids (Sid Hansen)

                        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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