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    I have been riding my 80' Special (SG) for about a month now and have been enjoying it for the most part. The only issue I am having is the shock that goes through me when I hit a large bump in the road. I am a big dude (6'4" 280lb), so I am sure I am maxing out the capacity of the bike. Also, when my wife rides with me (she is about 190lb), the ride is even rougher. When we hit large bumps I am pretty sure I am bottoming out the shocks. I am looking at replacing the rear shocks. I have read many postings on here about shocks but the opinions seem to vary. So, I was wondering what shocks you would recommend for a 1980 SG with a total rider weight of about 500lb. I see that the Progressive 412HD's seem popular. Is this the best option? Also, how hard is it to swap the shocks out? Is it doable in a few hours without any special tools?

    Thanks!
    .
    1980 XS1100SG "Charlene"

  • #2
    I have the same bike and I am the same size as you. XJ11 rear air shocks will be an direct fit. You can up the air pressure to hold more weight. They are easy to get and are rebuildable.
    Here is a article on rebuilding them.
    http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13400
    Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
    Current rides:
    80 XS1100SG
    82 JX1100
    83 Venture Royale
    86 V-Max

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mlew View Post
      I have the same bike and I am the same size as you. XJ11 rear air shocks will be an direct fit. You can up the air pressure to hold more weight. They are easy to get and are rebuildable.
      Here is a article on rebuilding them.
      http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13400
      That's neat to know those work on the XS's. I saw that you can pick up a nice pair on eBay for about $100. I will consider this option for sure... especially considering it is a direct fit. How long have you been riding with them on your SG? Any downside to using them?
      .
      1980 XS1100SG "Charlene"

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      • #4
        They have been on for at least the past 5 years, probably more. Have not had any problems with them after replacing the seals. Don't expect a used set to be a bolt on without some work. Replacing the seals and O-rings is what most of them need. Last time I did a pair it cost me around 40$ for the parts.
        Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
        Current rides:
        80 XS1100SG
        82 JX1100
        83 Venture Royale
        86 V-Max

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        • #5
          If you want the correct spring, you should buy new from a reputable dealer who will fit you with the correct spring.

          I bought Progressive Suspension shocks because I was attracted to the price and the pretty chrome. I bought them specific for XS Eleven and "Heavy Duty". They keep the tire on the road, but the springs were inadequate for my 240 lbs plus passenger. I went to Michael Morse at 650 Central for the correct spring and that fixed it, but now I'm in them for so much money that I could have got something much better for less.

          Next time I'd go to Traxxion Dynamics, Hagon USA, or YSS. I'm not one to be messing with 35 year old shocks, though I'm not putting down those who do. I want performance and plug n' play. There was a post that said the XJ shocks had my seal of approval. They don't, because I never tried them and it's unlikely that I will. Kudos to those of you who get them working for ya.

          BTW, at 280# and pax, those front springs aren't up to the task, either. (If they're stock)
          Marty (in Mississippi)
          XS1100SG
          XS650SK
          XS650SH
          XS650G
          XS6502F
          XS650E

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          • #6
            Shocks

            I can also recommend Traxxion Dynamics for fork reprogramming and rear shocks/springs. They revalved forks and matched rear shock and springs to what I needed for a 1979SF (Special). Much improved suspension and handling. A call to them would steer you in the right direction.
            1981 XS1100H Venturer
            K&N Air Filter
            ACCT
            Custom Paint by Deitz
            Geezer Rectifier/Regulator
            Chacal Stainless Steel Braided Brake Lines
            Chrome Front Rotor & Caliper Covers
            Stebel Nautilus Horn
            EBC Front Rotors
            Limie Accent Moves On In 2015

            Mike

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            • #7
              Yes Marty very true, if you still have stock front springs they are not up to the task of handling a big load. I have replaced mine with heavy duty springs. I am satisfied the way my 80SG handles but I do have a hard time keeping up with you on the twisties in the mountains.
              Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
              Current rides:
              80 XS1100SG
              82 JX1100
              83 Venture Royale
              86 V-Max

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              • #8
                I put Showas on the back of my SG last year, but then a bunch of stuff happened (I work in politics) so I didn't really get a chance to ride much. However, I intentionally went over one bump that would have jammed my spine with the old shocks and it was noticeably better, and this is on the lowest setting. I'm about 210 lbs.

                I believe the Showas were on Hondas but there are lots of threads here that talk about the swap. They fit perfectly, and I like chrome, so there's just that much more of it. Hope to find more time this year to ride.
                Steve R

                '80 SG
                "Fred" -- TC fuse box, stock airbox/exhaust/jets, SS brake lines, Windjammer V fairing, Cibie headlight lens, TKAT fork brace, Showa rear shocks, MikesXS emulators

                Former bikes:

                1973 Yamaha 125 Enduro (brother's but I 'borrowed' it a lot, usually after midnight)
                1978 XS400E Red
                1981 XS850 Special (Stingo)

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                • #9
                  Just hit up dave Quinn cycles. He can get you a pair of custom valved hagons for your weight with the proper spring rate for low $200's. Good luck.
                  80 XS1110 SG, RD400

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                  • #10
                    Have you guys seen the shocks on ebay and amazon that are a piggyback type system? They seem to be fillable with air or nitrogen.
                    79 SF

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by adelii View Post
                      Have you guys seen the shocks on ebay and amazon that are a piggyback type system? They seem to be fillable with air or nitrogen.
                      That type in the moto-x world are known as 'piggyback gas shocks'. They been around for some 5 decades and were initially used on moto-cross bikes. The earlier Maicos and a couple other Euro manufactured moto- cross bikes had them installed. The piggyback style gas shock displaces heat build-up better.....least that was the theory behind them. Olhins(spelling likely not correct) used to be the major manufacturer of those.
                      Last edited by motoman; 04-07-2017, 05:51 PM.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                      • #12
                        i have seen them with the air setup heres an ebay link

                        https://www.ebay.com/itm/391389007965
                        79 SF

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by adelii View Post
                          i have seen them with the air setup heres an ebay link

                          https://www.ebay.com/itm/391389007965
                          Those are CFC shocks.

                          Hagon, Ikon, Bitumo, Ohlins and some others all produce remote reservoir and piggyback shocks that are worth the scratch
                          1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                          1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                          1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                          1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                          1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                          Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the info everyone! I have done some looking around and I think I may try the Hagon route. They seem to have a decent reputation. I like the idea of the air shocks, but not sure if I feel like purchasing a pair on eBay and then rebuilding them. I would prefer something that is ready to go and is new.

                            Originally posted by e30 gangsta View Post
                            Just hit up dave Quinn cycles. He can get you a pair of custom valved hagons for your weight with the proper spring rate for low $200's. Good luck.
                            Thanks for this. I just sent him an email with all of my info to see if he can help.
                            .
                            1980 XS1100SG "Charlene"

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                            • #15
                              But . . .

                              Like most of us if you don't want to invest that much other UJM's share the same bolt patterns as the XS.

                              I'm using a set of Seca Turbo air adjustable rears on my SF build.

                              They can be had at a decent price:

                              http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-1982-...RYf~MT&vxp=mtr
                              1980 XS1100G "Dolly G" Full Dresser (with a coat of many colors )
                              1979 XS1100SF (stock-euro mods planned)
                              1984 XV700L Virago (to be hot-modded)
                              1983 XJ750MK Midnight Maxim (semi-restored DD)
                              1977 XS650D ( patiently awaiting resto)

                              Sometimes it takes a whole tank of gas before you can think straight.

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