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    upgrade, has anyone here put bearings in the brake and clutch lever pivot ?
    76 XS650 C ROADSTER
    80 XS650 G Special II
    https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
    80 XS 1100 SG
    81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
    https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
    AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

  • #2
    Bearings

    in the levers.
    Sorry if this is a re-post, can't seem to find my thread I just started about installing needle bearings in the levers to take up slop and smooth out the pull.
    76 XS650 C ROADSTER
    80 XS650 G Special II
    https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
    80 XS 1100 SG
    81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
    https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
    AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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    • #3
      Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
      upgrade, has anyone here put bearings in the brake and clutch lever pivot ?
      I was thinking about getting some levers with bearings because half of my left hand is dead; only have pull-strength now in my thumb, ring and pinky fingers.

      I did read your Lever post so I stopped by the dealer while I was out trying to get rid of the fuel in the tank so I can rebuild the fuel taps. They didn't have any but we had a nice talk about changing the clutch perch to a Honda bearing-style lever and ratio.
      -- Scott
      _____

      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
      1979 XS1100F: parts
      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
        in the levers.
        Sorry if this is a re-post, can't seem to find my thread I just started about installing needle bearings in the levers to take up slop and smooth out the pull.
        It's not Bearings, it's Lever.

        Timely subject for me.
        -- Scott
        _____

        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
        1979 XS1100F: parts
        2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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        • #5
          Hey Scott,

          I didn't know/realize about your hand strength deficit. Have you thought about a hyrdraulic setup instead? I remember a member doing that, I even helped with making the adapter plate for the clutch housing for the slave piston, but I don't know the final amount of lever pressure required to activate it vs. a cable lever setup?

          T.C.
          T. C. Gresham
          81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
          79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
          History shows again and again,
          How nature points out the folly of men!

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          • #6
            I'd really like some levers with bearings, they look good!

            So I looked at MotionPro levers with bearings, different perches and lever ratios, Harley mousetrap clutches, the older XS11 hydraulic mod with the 1/4" plate and the newer mod with the inline hydraulics. I'm still looking but to tell the honest truth I still have the same "new" clutch lever on my '80G that I put on back in 2008. The lever hasn't nearly worn out yet but the Barnett clutch springs made it harder to pull so that may kill it off in another five years if I don't put on a bearing-style lever like Don Sunday has suggested or I'm forced to use something completely different.

            Progressive nerve damage from a wreck back in '94 has begun to catch up to me as I was told would happen and it's begun to kill off my right hand and fingers too. (shrug) I woke up on the right side of the dirt again this morning so I'm fine and the sun came up on the right side of the planet so the universe is fine, anything else is petty stuff.
            -- Scott
            _____

            2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
            1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
            1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
            1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
            1979 XS1100F: parts
            2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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            • #7
              Levers

              Scott you can't see the bearings ? ? ?
              But if you want to install bearings in the levers your self, Torrington B-55 and B-56, my local place about $4.50 and $4.80.
              I can send you some too if you can't find them local.
              You could buy fancy levers if your after the look ?
              Thanks, Done
              76 XS650 C ROADSTER
              80 XS650 G Special II
              https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
              80 XS 1100 SG
              81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
              https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
              AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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              • #8
                Don
                Can you send a picture and I am wondering do you drill out the lever or put a different pin in-between for the bearing to fit. With my clutch and the new Barnett springs I'd worry about a thinner pin.
                To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                Rodan
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                1980 G Silverbird
                Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                1198 Overbore kit
                Grizzly 660 ACCT
                Barnett Clutch Springs
                R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                122.5 Main Jets
                ACCT Mod
                Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                Antivibe Bar ends
                Rear trunk add-on
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                • #9
                  Drill

                  the hole in the lever to 1/2", then use a rat tail file to fit the bearings snug in the lever. They can be forced into the new holes with a clamp after just using the 1/2" drill but I worry about distorting them.
                  I installed them in the XJ already. Use the original pivot pin just fine.

                  Originally posted by ViperRon View Post
                  Don
                  Can you send a picture and I am wondering do you drill out the lever or put a different pin in-between for the bearing to fit. With my clutch and the new Barnett springs I'd worry about a thinner pin.
                  76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                  80 XS650 G Special II
                  https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                  80 XS 1100 SG
                  81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                  https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                  AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by donebysunday View Post
                    Scott you can't see the bearings ? ? ?
                    But if you want to install bearings in the levers your self, Torrington B-55 and B-56, my local place about $4.50 and $4.80.
                    I can send you some too if you can't find them local.
                    You could buy fancy levers if your after the look ?
                    Thanks, Done
                    No, I don't see any pictures of the bearings. I know what bearings you mean but I've tried five browsers and none of them show any pictures.


                    Amazon.com | Koyo B-55 Needle Roller Bearing, Full Complement Drawn Cup, Open, Inch, 5/16" ID, 1/2" OD, 5/16" Width, 8300rpm Maximum Rotational Speed
                    Price: $6.09



                    Amazon.com | Koyo B-56 Needle Roller Bearing, Full Complement Drawn Cup, Open, Inch, 5/16" ID, 1/2" OD, 3/8" Width, 8300rpm Maximum Rotational Speed
                    Price: $4.87


                    -- Scott
                    _____

                    2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
                    1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                    1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
                    1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
                    1979 XS1100F: parts
                    2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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                    • #11
                      what exactly is this supposed to accomplish the amount of real difference in lever pull would be minuscule . not changing the angles of the lever means no change in pull strength, a bearing and even a plastic plain bearing will make the lever move more smoother maybe ,but will not change the pressure needed to pull it so why??





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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                        Hey Scott,

                        I didn't know/realize about your hand strength deficit. Have you thought about a hyrdraulic setup instead? I remember a member doing that, I even helped with making the adapter plate for the clutch housing for the slave piston, but I don't know the final amount of lever pressure required to activate it vs. a cable lever setup?

                        T.C.
                        I remember when the member here did the hydraulic clutch. It worked, but the problem created was the thin clutch cover flexed from the force of the slave cyl..
                        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                        • #13
                          I don't have any shorty levers on any of my bikes. Have a mixture of hydraulic and cable-pull clutches, the difference is very little. My Triumph has the stiffest clutch, and u get used to it.
                          1979 XS1100F
                          2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                          • #14
                            Don't knock it until you try it. UD knows his stuff!
                            Marty (in Mississippi)
                            XS1100SG
                            XS650SK
                            XS650SH
                            XS650G
                            XS6502F
                            XS650E

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                            • #15
                              Thanks

                              Marty !
                              The difference between my LH that had the mod and XJ that did not was dramatic, the bearings made up for much of that pull friction.
                              Then some PTFE in the cable really did the trick, pulls so easy and smooth it's hard to believe it's the same clutch..
                              I learn by trying things some are a success, this was a success, IMHO.

                              Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post
                              Don't knock it until you try it. UD knows his stuff!
                              76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                              80 XS650 G Special II
                              https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                              80 XS 1100 SG
                              81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                              https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                              AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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