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  • XS1100 Standard Speedometer Drive Maintenence

    Opening up, cleaning, painting and greasing the XS1100 Standard speedometer drive.


    Remove the retaining ring.




    Remove the drive gear and washers, then clean out the old grease.




    Clean out the speedometer cable hole in the driven gear.




    Put fresh grease back onto the drive gear and washers.




    There is a retaining pin for the driven gear but I strongly suggest that you do not remove it.
    You can easily clean out the old grease and repack it from inside the speedometer drive housing without disturbing the driven gear.




    Self-etching primer for the speedometer drive housing.




    Primer Sealer for the housing.




    Small amount of Rustoleum Gloss black mixed with NAPA alkyd enamel hardener.




    First coat of Gloss Black.




    Final result.




    Repack the speedometer drive housing with grease, put the gears and washers back in and roll the retainer clip into place.



    Now the hard part: put the speedometer drive back on the front axle and go ride somewhere to make sure it works!
    -- Scott
    _____

    2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
    1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
    1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
    1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
    1979 XS1100F: parts
    2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

  • #2
    Again.....nice pics and instructions as you have done recently with other areas of these ole' scoots maintenance..... Keep it coming Scott!.
    81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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    • #3
      Nice job.

      Alkyd enamel hardener-> that's a product I've never heard of.

      Seems quite useful.
      -Mike
      _________
      '79 XS1100SF 20k miles
      '80 XS1100SG 44k miles
      '81 XS1100H Venturer 35k miles
      '79 XS750SF 17k miles
      '85 Honda V65 Magna ~7k miles
      '84 Honda V65 Magna 48k miles (parts bike)
      '86 Yamaha VMAX 9k miles

      Previous: '68 Motoguzzi 600cc + '79 XS750SF 22k miles +'84 Honda V65

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Radioguylogs View Post
        Alkyd enamel hardener-> that's a product I've never heard of.

        Seems quite useful.
        It is, well, used to be useful. The hardener's got cyanide in it so I can't buy it from NAPA any more here in California. It was great for painting small parts and doing small projects without having to wait a month for the paint to dry enough to touch, then five or ten years for the alkyd chains to finish linking and hardening naturally.

        To keep fuel from washing off my paint like a chimney sweep's chalk drawings on a sidewalk in the rain I used NAPA's Crossfire CH254 alkyd hardener for my '79 Special fuel tank and side covers when I rolled them with white Rustoleum. Valspar sells a 4625 hardener but I can't get it here either.

        All of the parts I painted with Rustoleum turned out well and they're all highly fuel, oil, and brake fluid resistant within a couple of days. No, they're not invulnerable, Rustoleum's good paint but it's not all that! So far they haven't faded or changed color and they don't chip, fade or peel even if they're not 100% fuel proof. Rattlecan paints are good for primer but they're expensive. Brushing or rolling can lay down more paint that works better if you put even a little effort into it because like all painting, most of the work is in the prep.
        -- Scott
        _____

        2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
        1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
        1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
        1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
        1979 XS1100F: parts
        2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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        • #5
          The bottom line from the information I've found that I won't repost here is to use forced ventilation with a fresh-air supply mask and full suit to work with isocyanate hardener, working outdoors with gloves and an activated charcoal respirator is not good enough. Don't touch it, don't inhale it, stay away from the paint while it's curing/drying and don't do any part of the painting or drying indoors because the iso vapor can get you, your family, and your pets.

          But apparently I was wrong about isocyanate paint hardener. The hardener itself doesn't actually contain cyanide but it'll still kill you and it's still banned by the C.A.R.B. in my part of California but you do have to love modern search engines!

          I read what I though was some conflicting information about alkyds, polyesters, acrylics, urethane and polyurethane so I put "is there cyanide in isocyanate hardener" into Google. Even that didn't really produce many straight Yes/No answers... the top three hits were from a Canadian link to a German corporation's publication from its US office -- Bayer -- and the Australian and the UK Governments:-

          BOLD emphasis in the quotations is mine.


          http://www.endura.ca/pdf/IsocyanatesQA.pdf
          [PDF] Isocyanates Q&A - Endura Paint


          ISOCYANATES

          Questions and Answers About Use and Handling in Coatings Applications
          QA & Product Safety and Regulatory Affairs Department
          Bayer Corporation
          Revised May 2002

          [...]

          Section II:
          Chemical Nature of Isocyanate Products

          1. Question:
          What is an Isocyanate?

          Answer:
          An isocyanate is any chemical that
          contains at least one isocyanate group in its structure.

          An isocyanate group is a group of atoms containing
          one nitrogen atom attached by a double bond to one
          carbon atom, which in turn is attached by a second
          double bond to an oxygen atom (-N=C=O). A chemical
          containing two such groups is called a diisocyanate.
          Common examples are toluene diisocyanate (TDI),
          hexamethylene diisocyanate (HDI), isophorone
          diisocyanate (IPDI), and diphenylmethane
          diisocyanate (MDI). These also are often called
          monomers because they can be made to react with
          one another and various other chemicals to form
          large chain-like chemicals called polymers.
          Polyisocyanates such as Desmodur N are intermediate
          in size between the small diisocyanate monomers and
          the very large polymers.

          2. Question:
          Is there cyanide in isocyanates or is
          cyanide given off during the normal
          use of isocyanate products?

          Answer:
          Although the two chemical names
          are similar, no cyanide is used to make or is present
          in isocyanate products from Bayer. In addition, no
          cyanide will be released during the normal use of
          isocyanate products. However, cyanide can be
          produced from isocyanates by heating to decomposition
          and/or burning. In fact, burning any nitrogen-containing
          material, even those that were not made from
          isocyanates, can produce some hydrogen cyanide.
          Some examples of these nitrogen-rich materials not
          made from isocyanates are: epoxy/polyamide coatings,
          melamine coatings, alkyd urea coatings, and even
          natural materials such as wool.

          [...]

          http://www.safeworkaustralia.gov.au/sites/SWA/about/Publications/Documents/912/guide-to-handling-isocyanates.docx
          [DOC] Guide to handling isocyanates - Safe Work Australia


          GUIDE TO HANDLING ISOCYANATES
          This Guide provides information on how to manage health and safety risks associated with the manufacture, storage, handling, generation and use of isocyanates in the workplace.
          Isocyanates in the workplace can present significant risks to workers. Workers exposed to isocyanates can develop a range of short and long-term health problems.

          What are isocyanates?

          Isocyanates are hazardous chemicals.
          Isocyanates are widely used in manufacturing materials like polyurethane foams, rubbers, plastics, varnishes, adhesives and paints. A list of the most widely used industrial organic isocyanates and their main uses is in Table 1.

          Table 1 Isocyanate compounds
          Code:
          Name                            | Form	                                      | Main uses
          Toluene diisocyanate (TDI)  |	Liquid (mix of 2,4- and 2,6-isomers) |	Flexible polyurethane foam production
          
          Methylene diphenyl diisocyanate (MDI) |	Low-melting point solid |	Rigid polyurethane foam production
          
          Hexamethylene diisocyanate (HDI) |	Liquid	 | Spray paints, lacquers and car re-finishing
          
          Napthalene diisocyanate (NDI) |	Solid	| Elastomers and synthetic rubbers
          
          Methyl isocyanate (MIC) |	Liquid (highly volatile)	| Intermediate in the production of some pesticides
          (Bhopal, India disaster)
          
          Isophorone diisocyanate (IPDI) |	Liquid	 | Manufacture of coating and adhesive polymers and polyurethane foams
          Isocyanates are supplied in different forms. A paint hardener product labelled as containing no free isocyanates—that is no isocyanate monomers —may still be toxic because of its high proportion of other isocyanate forms including polymeric isocyanates. Isocyanates can also be generated from thermal decomposition of polyurethane materials including coated metals.
          Isocyanates should not be confused with cyanates, isocyanides or cyanides which have different properties and health effects.

          [...]


          http://www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/fod/inspect/mvrtopicpack.pdf
          [PDF] Control of isocyanate exposure in motor vehicle repair (MVR) - UK Health and Safety Executive (HSE)


          ‘Inspection Topic Pack’
          Control of isocyanate exposure in motor vehicle repair (MVR) bodyshops Disease Reduction Programme
          Version 7, October 2007

          [...]

          1.6. Current awareness of isocyanate risks.
          The evidence from 100 visits to MVR bodyshops in the London and South East by HSE field
          scientists in 2003-2003, and work done by others in CHSD3 and HSL on the knowledge of microcompanies,
          including MVR businesses, suggests that many employed or working in MVR
          bodyshops do not understand the risk that isocyanate paints pose or the health effects that can be
          caused. There would appear to be real confusion as to the potential health effects and harm.
          People think that isocyanate contains “cyanide” and can “poison you”, or it “can give you
          cancer”. This, and other factors, probably means that people do not identify early signs of
          respiratory sensitisation caused by over-exposure to isocyanate e.g. chest tightness (often in the
          evening/early morning) after work, persistent cough, flu-like shivers. Many people soldier on, still
          too exposed, with their symptoms getting worse, until they are forced to give up work.

          1.7. What happens to MVR bodyshop workers who contract OA?
          Once they have started to react and the longer their over-exposure continues, the worse will be the
          long-term outcome. For such people the initial occupational asthma caused by isocyanate becomes
          more-or-less permanent asthma. And the longer people soldier on the worse the asthma and the
          more permanent and debilitating the harm to their lungs. Some people will reach the “respiratory
          cripple” stage where they get asthma attacks from a whole range of non-specific respiratory insults
          such as the smell of paint or perfume or petrol or simply inhaling cold air.

          [...]
          Use forced ventilation with a fresh-air supply mask and full suit to work with isocyanate hardener, working outdoors with gloves and an activated charcoal respirator is not good enough. Don't touch it, don't inhale it, stay away from the paint while it's curing/drying and don't do any part of the painting or drying indoors because the iso vapor can get you, your family, and your pets.
          -- Scott
          _____

          2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
          1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
          1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
          1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
          1979 XS1100F: parts
          2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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