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  • AggiesaurusRex
    XSive
    • Apr 2016
    • 57
    • Orlando, FL.

    #1

    Spark plug wire replacement help

    Here's what I know, basically nothing, well and that I need new ignition coils. I'm trying to learn as I go, but I have a long way to go.

    In this post, he references a green Dyna ignition coil:



    Is this it? Can I use this? Where can I find appropriate wires that will match this?



    Open to any other suggestions, tips, advice, or if someone has found better replacements also.

    I am a lost puppy in the woods, please help me. lol
    80G
  • IanDMacDonald
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Oct 2010
    • 3917
    • Grand Blanc & Fenton, MI

    #2
    Nothing to be lost about sir. Those are the one's you need. Order some 7mm-8mm copper-core wire, or you can find Dyna's plug wire kit on ebay as-well:

    Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/252402036221

    And then, follow Pat Kelly's Dyna install.
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    • AggiesaurusRex
      XSive
      • Apr 2016
      • 57
      • Orlando, FL.

      #3
      Thank you, I just ordered all my loot and bookmarked the install thread.
      80G

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      • dbeardslee
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 4385
        • Maineville, OH

        #4
        When you install those 3.0 ohm coils make sure you bypass your ballast resistor. You'll also want to open up the gap on your plugs a tad - .035" should do it. Might also need to fabricate some brackets to hang 'em, and you'll need to get a couple bolts and some nuts as well. And a crowfoot wrench set comes in might handy when it comes time to tighten those bolts.

        The other way to do it is to cross drill holes for the mounting bolts and just use the stock hardware. You'll trash the warranty doing it, but it's fast and easy.

        I run those same coils on Betsy, and I installed a set on my brother's '80 G as well. I wouldn't trade 'em. You'll notice the difference the first time you hit the starter.
        I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

        '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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        • Prothec
          XSive Maximus
          • Jul 2007
          • 587
          • Fort Myers, FL

          #5
          You should be able to buy the copper core 7mm or 8mm plug wire by the foot in bulk at the major auto parts stores (O'Reilly, Advance Auto Parts, Autozone).

          This is one of those items I look up on their website and grab the part number. I have no idea why, but this is a typical "we don't carry that" answer I get from them until I give them the part number. It's cheap and plentiful.

          I have bought mine from O'Reilly.

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          • dbeardslee
            XS-XJ Super Guru
            • Nov 2007
            • 4385
            • Maineville, OH

            #6
            Originally posted by Prothec
            You should be able to buy the copper core 7mm or 8mm plug wire by the foot in bulk at the major auto parts stores (O'Reilly, Advance Auto Parts, Autozone).

            This is one of those items I look up on their website and grab the part number. I have no idea why, but this is a typical "we don't carry that" answer I get from them until I give them the part number. It's cheap and plentiful.

            I have bought mine from O'Reilly.

            http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...MW11/N0609.oap
            Another advantage to picking some up at O'Reilly is their loaner tools. They might just have a spark plug wire crimping tool you can borrow and I know they sell the distributor coil type ends that will be needed for the coil end of the wires. A proper crimp will make it much easier to insert the wires into the coils. JAT
            I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

            '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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            • Prothec
              XSive Maximus
              • Jul 2007
              • 587
              • Fort Myers, FL

              #7
              That's a good idea. I've only ever used pliers and I don't know why it never occurred to me that there would be a proper way to crimp on the wires
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              • dbeardslee
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Nov 2007
                • 4385
                • Maineville, OH

                #8
                Originally posted by Prothec
                That's a good idea. I've only ever used pliers and I don't know why it never occurred to me that there would be a proper way to crimp on the wires
                LoL I used to do them with pliers too, and I've installed about half a dozen sets of coils that way. Every time I did it with pliers I had to hold my mouth just right and use the proper profanity or I couldn't get the wire ends to seat all the way. Last year I broke down and bought a spark plug wire crimping tool and I couldn't believe how much easier it made the installation. And that was with 7mm wires. I'll bet it makes an even bigger difference with 8mm's.
                I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                • dbeardslee
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 4385
                  • Maineville, OH

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AggiesaurusRex
                  Thank you, I just ordered all my loot and bookmarked the install thread.
                  If you want to go the quick dirty route, and you're not concerned about the warranty on the coils, here's a link that will show you what I mean about cross drilling them and using the stock hardware. This link is for a set of Mikes Green Coils (which are no longer on the bike), but the installation works the same for the Dynas. It's the quickest, easiest way to mount them and provides a good installation, but again, you'll scrap your warranty (which I believe is one year) if you decide to do it this way. Post #11 has the pics. Mikes/Dyna mounting thread
                  I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                  '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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                  • Brak
                    XSive
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 46
                    • St Paul, Minn.

                    #10
                    Many Moons ago, i purchased a custom set of MSD wires for my Camaro, and it came with a crimping tool to use in my vise.... it even had Grooves to perfectly strip the wire every time...

                    It has become one of my prized posessions.

                    80 SG

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                    • Prothec
                      XSive Maximus
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 587
                      • Fort Myers, FL

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dbeardslee
                      If you want to go the quick dirty route, and you're not concerned about the warranty on the coils, here's a link that will show you what I mean about cross drilling them and using the stock hardware. This link is for a set of Mikes Green Coils (which are no longer on the bike), but the installation works the same for the Dynas. It's the quickest, easiest way to mount them and provides a good installation, but again, you'll scrap your warranty (which I believe is one year) if you decide to do it this way. Post #11 has the pics. Mikes/Dyna mounting thread
                      Thanks db, I'm not the OP, but that gives me ideas for my own project.

                      Originally posted by Brak
                      Many Moons ago, i purchased a custom set of MSD wires for my Camaro, and it came with a crimping tool to use in my vise.... it even had Grooves to perfectly strip the wire every time...

                      It has become one of my prized posessions.
                      This looks like it is the same, available for $12 on Amazon:

                      https://www.amazon.com/MSD-3503-Mini.../dp/B00029JKAK
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                      • motoman
                        Master of XSology
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 8413
                        • Grand Junction, Colorado

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brak
                        Many Moons ago, i purchased a custom set of MSD wires for my Camaro, and it came with a crimping tool to use in my vise.... it even had Grooves to perfectly strip the wire every time...

                        It has become one of my prized posessions.

                        Actually, the plier style of Snap-On strippers/crimpers ARE the best and easiest to use. They also crimp 90degree type plug/distributor cap connector ends. They also strip back 7 and 8mm plug wire along with any other size wire used. Definitely high quality styles of crimp locations also.
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