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    BRINGING AN 81 XS1100 OUT TO COLORADO(7K+ FEET) FROM CONNECTICUT(SEA LEVEL). ANY TIMING OR JETTING MODS. REQ'D?

  • #2
    You'll definitely want to rejet. Your bike will choke at that elevation otherwise.

    I'm at 5700-6700ft elevation.

    You may end up needing to reduce fuel jet sizes by 3% per 1000 feet above sea level. Other XSives will chime in.

    Ben
    1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
    1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
    1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
    1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
    1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

    Formerly:
    1982 XS650
    1980 XS1100g
    1979 XS1100sf
    1978 XS1100e donor

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    • #3
      Colorado is interesting...problem is you don't stay at any 1 elevation for long. I live at 5,400 - 5,500 feet, but within an hour ride is Independence Pass (12,095 feet) McClure Pass (8,755 feet) and Grand Mesa (average elevation = 10,000 ft). 2 hours away is Moab, Utah...elevation 4,025 feet.

      Next bike I get is going to have fuel injection. My XJ runs rich most of the time with its OEM 112.5 jets.
      Jerry Fields
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      • #4
        This is the same problem I have - only with far less variation.

        It's a matter of mileage: If I drive 90 miles one way I drop from 6700 to about 4500 or so. If I drive 45 miles another way there are 8000+ ft mountain passes.

        Fuel injection on the XS has got to be sweet. The fuel injection mod needs to be sold as a kit specifically for XS bikes, with specifically created instructions.

        What I mean by that is somebody sells acquires the throttle bodies, pressure regulators, computer, software, and combines that with custom XS instructions....

        Ben
        1985 Yamaha VMX12n "Max X" - Stock
        1982 Honda XL500r "Big Red" - Stump Puller. Unknown mileage.
        1974-78 Honda XL350 hybrid - The thumper that revs. Unknown miles.
        1974 Suzuki TC/TS125 hybrid. Trials with trail gear. Invaluable. Unknown miles.
        1971 Honda CL350. For Dad. Newtronic Electronic Ign. Reliable. Unknown miles.

        Formerly:
        1982 XS650
        1980 XS1100g
        1979 XS1100sf
        1978 XS1100e donor

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        • #5
          An interesting fuel injection tidbit: When Ferrari first fuel injected the 308 (I.E. 308 GTSi), it sucked so bad that owners tore off the fuel injection to put Webers on them. I'm wondering if the current Megasquirt/GSXR system people have used on the XS is a "set and forget" system, or needs a little tweaking now and then. If one of the enthusiastic early adopters of the Megasquirt system has gotten theirs dialed in well, perhaps they would make their program/settings available to others willing to take the plunge?
          2010 Kawasaki Z1000
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          • #6
            At the XS camp we had in Colorado, I only remember one XS running poorly due to Altitude. Jerry is right, you only stay at high altitude for a very limited time. I would say that if your bike is running rich right now you are in trouble but if it runs normally or lean I think you will be OK. And unless you are running WOT up the mountain adjusting the mixture screw will help some.
            Gary Granger
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            2013 Suzuki DR650SE, 2009 Kawasaki Concours 1400, 2003 Aprilia RSV Mille Tuono

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            • #7
              Jaguar, I doubt you'll get altitude hassles on an XS11. Even though they're ancient, you're still talking a pretty top-notch design here. Unlike cable linked carb slides, and along with the rare (for a bike) vaccuum advance system, the XS's choice CV carbs simply auto-adjust to the engines' demands. Sweet. And with the linked pilot-main design, a single main jet change up or down can cover your whole rev range. Even sweeter.

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              • #8
                I have my 78 E set slightly rich (reduce header blueing and runs a little cooler on our 110 deg. days). I notice a decrease in power above 5,000 ft.
                99.9% of my riding is near sea level
                Pat Kelly
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                1978 XS1100E (The Force)
                1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
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