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  • How to charge your wet battery (for dummies like me)

    My own personal notes to avoid battery disasters. Hope it will help the next blank slate

    1- Remove the seat.
    2- Disconnect the negative (-) black,
    Then disconnect the positive (+) red.
    3- Lift battery straight up and out.
    4- With the battery charger not connected,
    Clamp the (+) red cable to positive,
    Then clamp the (+) black cable to negative.
    5- Let the battery charge at 2Amps or less until its charged. Anywhere from 2-12 hours.
    6- Disconnect the power of the charger.
    7- Remove the negative (-) black clamp,
    Then remove the positive (+) red clamp.
    8- put the battery back in its place.
    9- Connect the positive (+) red,
    Then connect the negative (-) black.

    Ps: wear gloves and eye protection. Baking soda to wash away acid
    Frame: 79 XS1100S
    Engine: 81 XS1100S
    Carbs: 78-79 BS34

    Gf bike: 78 XS650S
    Carbs: 70-79 BS38

    Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

  • #2
    That is a lot of trouble to charge an xs11 battery. BTW, it is removed out the left side and not the top. You can connect a charging pigtail wire pair to the accessory fuse lugs but disconnect that if you want to hit the starter. I would consider using a smart charger and use it only once every couple of weeks if you aren't running the bike, and don't charge it for more that a couple of hours. Watch the battery fluids. I have heard that it is a good idea to take the battery indoors and set it on a board to do that, but I run mine in the winter.
    Skids (Sid Hansen)

    Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Blank Slate View Post
      My own personal notes to avoid battery disasters. Hope it will help the next blank slate

      1- Remove the seat.
      2- Disconnect the negative (-) black,
      Then disconnect the positive (+) red.
      3- Lift battery straight up and out.
      4- With the battery charger not connected,
      Clamp the (+) red cable to positive,
      Then clamp the (+) black cable to negative.
      5- Let the battery charge at 2Amps or less until its charged. Anywhere from 2-12 hours.
      6- Disconnect the power of the charger.
      7- Remove the negative (-) black clamp,
      Then remove the positive (+) red clamp.
      8- put the battery back in its place.
      9- Connect the positive (+) red,
      Then connect the negative (-) black.

      Ps: wear gloves and eye protection. Baking soda to wash away acid
      Your #3 is incorrect. batt. comes out left side AFTER you remove left side cover and remove the batt. hold down bracket.
      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by motoman View Post
        Your #3 is incorrect. batt. comes out left side AFTER you remove left side cover and remove the batt. hold down bracket.
        Oops, these instructions are how I charhed the battery on my xs650.
        Notwithstanding #3, it could help a noobie charge their old battery if they've never done so.
        Frame: 79 XS1100S
        Engine: 81 XS1100S
        Carbs: 78-79 BS34

        Gf bike: 78 XS650S
        Carbs: 70-79 BS38

        Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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        • #5
          In number 4 that Black lead is a - negative and I do suggest that the battery be pulled but also when you put the last connection on a battery that has given any problem, I now use my for arm to shield me. Being the proud recipient of a battery bath and seeing how those plates cut through the car hood I have great respect for explosive devices. Bottles of coca cola can kill the effects of the acid also as it stopped me from becoming naked. It was too late for my tennis shoes that I walked right out of with the steaming eyelets slowly sliding off the tops of my bare feet.
          To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

          Rodan
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
          1980 G Silverbird
          Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
          1198 Overbore kit
          Grizzly 660 ACCT
          Barnett Clutch Springs
          R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
          122.5 Main Jets
          ACCT Mod
          Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
          Antivibe Bar ends
          Rear trunk add-on
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          • #6
            Ha, yes another mistake (-) negative
            Frame: 79 XS1100S
            Engine: 81 XS1100S
            Carbs: 78-79 BS34

            Gf bike: 78 XS650S
            Carbs: 70-79 BS38

            Pics: http://tinypic.com/2mpmkpjb

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            • #7
              Minor thing your mistake but learn from my experience and if battery is acting up protect yourself it only takes a spark.
              To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

              Rodan
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
              1980 G Silverbird
              Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
              1198 Overbore kit
              Grizzly 660 ACCT
              Barnett Clutch Springs
              R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
              122.5 Main Jets
              ACCT Mod
              Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
              Antivibe Bar ends
              Rear trunk add-on
              http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blank Slate View Post
                Oops, these instructions are how I charhed the battery on my xs650.
                Notwithstanding #3, it could help a noobie charge their old battery if they've never done so.
                Guess I missed your bantor on that one.
                81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                • #9
                  Battery questions????

                  Since there's a battery thread!!!!Only two years old. Didn't check battery since March .,.Noticed Bike didn't fire right lately. (Sluggish) But did fire.Pulled battery only ,10'volts.....water level a little low,,, still over plate's....Brought level up distilled h2.0..!Put charger on boom right to green.Charge d...zWhats with these new chargers Battery still only 10 volts!?????So brought out the old charger on wheels 2amp.My question is will she go back to twelve????? And can you add distilled water or should it have been acid.. To bring level back up...or whatever that stuff is when you buy the batteries dry...Next time sealed battery.Didn't know any better Before .com...
                  1980xs1100.sg Pacifica Fairing ..stock.
                  2006 Honda Shadow Spirit 1100.! ⛺

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tomcos67 View Post
                    Since there's a battery thread!!!!Only two years old. Didn't check battery since March .,.Noticed Bike didn't fire right lately. (Sluggish) But did fire.Pulled battery only ,10'volts.....water level a little low,,, still over plate's....Brought level up distilled h2.0..!Put charger on boom right to green.Charge d...zWhats with these new chargers Battery still only 10 volts!?????So brought out the old charger on wheels 2amp.My question is will she go back to twelve????? And can you add distilled water or should it have been acid.. To bring level back up...or whatever that stuff is when you buy the batteries dry...Next time sealed battery.Didn't know any better Before .com...
                    Only EVER add distilled water. The water evaporates over time, and distilled water has no dissolved solids to leave in there when it evaporates. The acid never goes anywhere. However, the acid WILL lose its acidity over time. Average is 3-5 years per battery (YMMV), and the AGMs don't last any longer. They just cost more.
                    1980 XS850SG - Sold
                    1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
                    Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
                    Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).

                    Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
                    -H. Ford

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tomcos67 View Post
                      Since there's a battery thread!!!!Only two years old. Didn't check battery since March .,.Noticed Bike didn't fire right lately. (Sluggish) But did fire.Pulled battery only ,10'volts.....water level a little low,,, still over plate's....Brought level up distilled h2.0..!Put charger on boom right to green.Charge d...zWhats with these new chargers Battery still only 10 volts!?????So brought out the old charger on wheels 2amp.My question is will she go back to twelve????? And can you add distilled water or should it have been acid.. To bring level back up...or whatever that stuff is when you buy the batteries dry...Next time sealed battery.Didn't know any better Before .com...
                      Hey Tom,

                      Your new charger is one of those "smart" chargers that are set to NOT charge when the voltage gets too low.....~10 volts because it thinks that it might have a dead cell! I experienced the same thing with a NEW Sealed AGM type battery this past year that I let get drained down to 8 volts. I learned to put the battery in PARALLEL with another GOOD battery so that the charger would see 12 volts, and would send the charging current, and the weak battery then came up to 11 volts just an hour later, and was then able to put it on the charger alone. It finally came up to 13.2 volts right after charge, then settled back down to ~12.7 or so. It still has plenty of starting power. But it was only drained for a week or so.....yours was drained for possibly several months which can allow for heavier sulfating of the plates, and charging won't be able reverse all of it...that's what eventually kills a battery. Keeping it well charged keeps the SULFURIC ACID at it's highest reactive level and the least amount of lead sulfate on the plates.

                      T.C.
                      T. C. Gresham
                      81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                      79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                      History shows again and again,
                      How nature points out the folly of men!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TopCatGr58 View Post
                        Hey Tom,

                        Your new charger is one of those "smart" chargers that are set to NOT charge when the voltage gets too low.....~10 volts because it thinks that it might have a dead cell! I experienced the same thing with a NEW Sealed AGM type battery this past year that I let get drained down to 8 volts. I learned to put the battery in PARALLEL with another GOOD battery so that the charger would see 12 volts, and would send the charging current, and the weak battery then came up to 11 volts just an hour later, and was then able to put it on the charger alone. It finally came up to 13.2 volts right after charge, then settled back down to ~12.7 or so. It still has plenty of starting power. But it was only drained for a week or so.....yours was drained for possibly several months which can allow for heavier sulfating of the plates, and charging won't be able reverse all of it...that's what eventually kills a battery. Keeping it well charged keeps the SULFURIC ACID at it's highest reactive level and the least amount of lead sulfate on the plates.

                        T.C.
                        That process sems to work for you as there IS no true smart charger out there yet.........just the name .
                        81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah. That's a complicated way to charge. I regularly top up my battery because it almost never has a float charge after riding. It needs a float to survive long term which takes a few hours at least.

                          I save all that work and leave the battery in the bike and hook the positive clamp to the solenoid nut under the right side cover. It has a wire that goes straight to the battery. The negative clamp I hook up to a bare engine bolt because the battery is grounded to the engine.

                          If you have a good, long vent tube property routed there is no reason the battery should have to come out of the bike. It gets charged in there all day when you are riding.

                          Always use a good quality automatic charger or put your manual charger on a timer so if you forget about it you won't "boil" it dry.
                          Living to EXcess.
                          1978 XS1100E Canadian, Cartridge emulators, NOS heavy duty fork springs,
                          Showa rear shocks, ACCT, Jardine 4-2 spaghetti pipes.
                          1979 XS1100F Canadian, stock exhaust. Top end rebuild in progress.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Orange4 View Post
                            Yeah. That's a complicated way to charge. I regularly top up my battery because it almost never has a float charge after riding. It needs a float to survive long term which takes a few hours at least.

                            I save all that work and leave the battery in the bike and hook the positive clamp to the solenoid nut under the right side cover. It has a wire that goes straight to the battery. The negative clamp I hook up to a bare engine bolt because the battery is grounded to the engine.

                            If you have a good, long vent tube property routed there is no reason the battery should have to come out of the bike. It gets charged in there all day when you are riding.

                            Always use a good quality automatic charger or put your manual charger on a timer so if you forget about it you won't "boil" it dry.
                            .........and at a one amp charge rate.
                            81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ViperRon View Post
                              In number 4 that Black lead is a - negative and I do suggest that the battery be pulled but also when you put the last connection on a battery that has given any problem, I now use my for arm to shield me. Being the proud recipient of a battery bath and seeing how those plates cut through the car hood I have great respect for explosive devices. Bottles of coca cola can kill the effects of the acid also as it stopped me from becoming naked. It was too late for my tennis shoes that I walked right out of with the steaming eyelets slowly sliding off the tops of my bare feet.
                              I saw a battery lift the hood off an Chebbie Vega, back in the day......what a mess...always have had respect for batteries since then....
                              Mark
                              1980 xs1100g 3H5.......
                              1992 Ducati 907ie
                              2001 Moto Guzzi Jackal

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