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  • mjpxs11sh
    XStremely XSive
    • Jan 2011
    • 299
    • N/E, Illinois

    #1

    carbs

    are there any links on carb sync. i put that phrase in search post and threads and nothing comes up! i borrowed a set of guages and fittings to start. i can see the 2 petcocks are an issue guess i have to get extended fuel lines even tho i have a mini bike fuel tank with diff line fittings.
    Last edited by mjpxs11sh; 09-14-2015, 11:45 AM.
    Max

    81 XS1100SH Black Beast Mutt
    Kerker 4/1
    stock carbs and air box.
    78 headlite, handle bars,
    1 set of ea-160/85mph guages,
    crash bars, cruise control

    Other 2 Wheelers
    78 XS1100E jet kit, Kerker 4/1, air pods, jet kit-RIP
    94 CBR1000F jet kit,Two Bros pipe, K&N Filter
  • dbeardslee
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Nov 2007
    • 4385
    • Maineville, OH

    #2
    Carb sync is pretty simple. You've got three screws on the linkages to the butterflies. The one on the left hand side syncs carbs 1 and 2, the one on the right snycs carbs 3 and 4, and the one in the middle syncs 1 and 2 with 3 and 4. Warm up the motor and position a fan so it's blowing on the motor to keep it from overheating. Connect the vacuum hoses to the carb taps, set your petcocks on prime. Adjust carbs three and four so they're even, then sync 1 and 2, then sync 1 and 2 with 3 and 4. Try not to apply downward pressure on the sync screws when you make adjustments, and you might want to blip the throttle a little after each adjustment just to make sure you haven't pushed down on the linkage. You may have to go back and fourth several times to get them all at the same level. And that's just about all there is to syncing carbs.

    It's usually easiest to do if you turn the tank around backwards and set it where the seat usually goes. A very long screwdriver works the best for me to get at the screws.
    I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

    '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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    • DiverRay
      Moderator
      • Nov 2004
      • 7603
      • Star, IDAHO

      #3
      One thing is you SHOULD adjust the mixture if the carbs have been apart.
      Link to sync:http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • dbeardslee
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 4385
        • Maineville, OH

        #4
        And one other thing - when you sync you want the motor running about 1100 rpms.
        I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

        '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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        • dbeardslee
          XS-XJ Super Guru
          • Nov 2007
          • 4385
          • Maineville, OH

          #5
          And one other, other thing. If you're using a manometer with fluid or mercury be VERY careful with the throttle. My first sync gauge was that type, and if the vacuum gets too high it can suck the fluid/mercury out. Mine got trashed when I got a fart back through the carbs that sent gas into the fluid and contaminated it. Dial gauges or a Carbtune Pro are much better, IMHO>
          I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

          '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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          • mjpxs11sh
            XStremely XSive
            • Jan 2011
            • 299
            • N/E, Illinois

            #6
            +

            thanx doug and ray. i wanted a stick because ive read they are more accurate when a mechanic used both and compared the results on youtube. i dont have a tach ether to adjust mix. i didnt seperate the carbs when i cleaned them and installed new slow jets. bike runs good so its really just for experience. idk how you found that link ray but it explains what i wanted confirming like doug did. thanx again both of you!
            Max

            81 XS1100SH Black Beast Mutt
            Kerker 4/1
            stock carbs and air box.
            78 headlite, handle bars,
            1 set of ea-160/85mph guages,
            crash bars, cruise control

            Other 2 Wheelers
            78 XS1100E jet kit, Kerker 4/1, air pods, jet kit-RIP
            94 CBR1000F jet kit,Two Bros pipe, K&N Filter

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            • dbeardslee
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Nov 2007
              • 4385
              • Maineville, OH

              #7
              No sweat. As far as a manometer being more accurate than gauges - I'm dubious. I had a set of gauges that I made with Harbor Freight vacuum gauges, and as long as they were properly zeroed, they worked as well as anything else. A manometer may be a little easier to read, though. These days I use a Carbtune Pro. It's got the durability of gauges but you read it like a manometer, and you don't have to worry about fluid getting contaminated or sucked out. But they all work.
              I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

              '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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              • skids
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Jul 2002
                • 5047
                • Florissant, CO, USA

                #8
                Originally posted by mjpxs11sh
                thanx doug and ray. i wanted a stick because ive read they are more accurate when a mechanic used both and compared the results on youtube. i dont have a tach ether to adjust mix. i didnt seperate the carbs when i cleaned them and installed new slow jets. bike runs good so its really just for experience. idk how you found that link ray but it explains what i wanted confirming like doug did. thanx again both of you!
                I like the Hg manometer sticks. You want to ensure that there is enough in the reservoir(s) so that the mercury does not drop below the inlet of the riser tube. If there is not enough an it starts drawing air, the fluid will keep rising up-over the top, and into the engine (don't ask). Also, If you rev the engine, let off the throttle slowly, because if you slam the throttle plates after reving, it can draw the mercury up-and-over. Don't forget about the toxicity of mercury. As a liquid it is pretty mundane, but if you vaporize it by blowing it out of your exhaust, you had better not breathe it!!!
                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                • mjpxs11sh
                  XStremely XSive
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 299
                  • N/E, Illinois

                  #9
                  +

                  to reiterate im using dial guages. thanx guys
                  Max

                  81 XS1100SH Black Beast Mutt
                  Kerker 4/1
                  stock carbs and air box.
                  78 headlite, handle bars,
                  1 set of ea-160/85mph guages,
                  crash bars, cruise control

                  Other 2 Wheelers
                  78 XS1100E jet kit, Kerker 4/1, air pods, jet kit-RIP
                  94 CBR1000F jet kit,Two Bros pipe, K&N Filter

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                  • DiverRay
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 7603
                    • Star, IDAHO

                    #10
                    Just get a "T" fitting, and check that all 4 read the same before you do the sync. Mine go out now and then, and I check them because of that.
                    Ray Matteis
                    KE6NHG
                    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                    • motoman
                      Master of XSology
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 8413
                      • Grand Junction, Colorado

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dbeardslee
                      And one other thing - when you sync you want the motor running about 1100 rpms.
                      Actually idle is to be turned down in the 7-800rpm range whike setting fuel mixture FIRST using the 'lean drop' method, then a quick little sync, then get a floor fan in front of motor, leaving it on during your WHOLE tuning process.Now..............go back thru WHOLE process again in SAME order till a throttle 'blip with motor not running and THEN re-starting looking for any un-even vsavuum exist. When motor and you are satisfied, go for a ride putting different loads on motor at different rpm ranges, looking for faulty work by a so called mechanic.
                      81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                      • dbeardslee
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 4385
                        • Maineville, OH

                        #12
                        Originally posted by motoman
                        Actually idle is to be turned down in the 7-800rpm range whike setting fuel mixture FIRST using the 'lean drop' method, then a quick little sync, then get a floor fan in front of motor, leaving it on during your WHOLE tuning process.Now..............go back thru WHOLE process again in SAME order till a throttle 'blip with motor not running and THEN re-starting looking for any un-even vsavuum exist. When motor and you are satisfied, go for a ride putting different loads on motor at different rpm ranges, looking for faulty work by a so called mechanic.
                        9. Start the engine and let it warm up a little (approximately 1,100 rpm).

                        10. The carbs are synchronized if all have the same gauge readings.


                        Word for word, straight out of the Yamaha XS1100 Service Manual.
                        I think I have a loose screw behind the handlebars.

                        '79 XS11 Standard, Jardine 4/1, Dyna DC1-1 Coils, 145 mains, 45 pilots, plastic floats - 25.7mm, XV920 fuel valves, inline fuel filters, speed bleeders, Mikes XS pods, spade-type fuse block, fork brace, progressive fork springs/shocks, manual petcocks, 750 FD, Venture cam chain tensioner, SS brake lines

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