Front end issues, suggestions?

[BA80]

Those lower races can be a PITA getting out.

I can pretty much guarantee it'll be like a whole different bike with those stem bearings properly installed and lubed.

Day and night.......

[MaximPhil]

Paul,
Your stuck on the triple tree bearing reminds me of mine. Rick was chief mechanic on my restoration and handed me a large (2 lb) hammer from his vast collection and told me to" hit till it moves" which it did eventually
If that bottom race proves recalcitrant you can always use a Dremel tool to grind it out. Very carefully to avoid damaging the neck of the frame.
One of the many things I have seen done to my bike
I swear they waited for me to return from a Beer run before attacking it with gusto...Sparks flying

Phil

[motoman]

A Dremel tool with the small cut-off wheel and split the race, then it will just fall out.

[MaximPhil]

Paul,

The Fridge


The Hammer drawer


Rick getting ready to cut the bearing


I missed taking apicture of the sparks flying
Phil

[XS11NEWROSS]

Sparks and bad language a plenty

Well guys, getting that lower race out was "interesting". The dremel was running out of discs. I thought it would be a bit easier from here but more issues. The oil seals supplied in the "all balls " set I had got I installed but on reassembling the top tree was sitting high, enough for the headlamp ears to wiggle a half inch. I blamed the extra seals and pulled all out and re hammered out the lower as gently as possible, jesus that is tight fit. The bearings seemed to be a little proud in the inner race than the outer and were both a push fit into the outer. I checked that I got the outer races in fully but they seem a couple of mm proud. On reassemble the top tree is better but still a few mm high, with the forks put in she feels very smooth and perfect compared to before but there is definitely a small gap at the ears. Is this an issue that can be resolved by a couple of rubbers to take up this gap or are they the incorrect bearings possibly? Or have I really messed up here somehow .....

[BA80]

Have you got that lower bearing fully seated on the inner tube?

[XS11NEWROSS]

Hi greg, I have the outer race of the bottom fully in place, it just seems the inner race and bearings are not flush, they run a little lower. I tried giving the base a few bangs to make sure it was up as far as possible. Do you reckon the bearing inner and outer should be level before fitting?

[XS11NEWROSS]

Just thinking, would you guys have the correct "all balls " part number for our machine. It was supplied by a reputable UK company.

[BA80]

22-1004............

[XS11NEWROSS]

Greg.. just checked and it is the correct set 22-1004 . I'm really stumped, doesn't seem right. The inner races\rollers on both bearings are actually separate and just sit into the outer races which are correctly installed into the frame as far as they can go. They sit exactly as they arrived in the packet. Looks like a bit of a gap at the bottom, small but looks wrong. I'll take a photo tomorrow and see what you think.

[BA80]

The first set I did I put it all together and thought everything was good, after riding a couple days I noticed a clunk in the front end when I used the front brake. The whole thing had loosened up and was moving back and forth.

The adjusting nut and jam nut were still jammed together good. I hadn't seated either that lower bearing or on of the 2 races completely somehow.

That's why I said to check that lower bearing. I Think this is what is going on with yours. Be SURE both races are driven home and that lower bearing is down all the way on that inner tube.

[Radioguylogs]

Seals?

...The oil seals supplied in the "all balls " set I had got I installed but on reassembling the top tree was sitting high, enough for the headlamp ears to wiggle a half inch. I blamed the extra seals and pulled all out and re hammered out the lower as gently as possible,.....

I'm doing all the bearings on the Bagger. I ordered new seals for my swingarm and wheels, but the Yamaha parts drawing doesn't show seals in the steering. Just checking...I don't need steering seals, right?

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...ING/parts.html

Sounds like NEWROSS is saying that, but I'm not sure after reading this post.

[Schming]

Seal

Hi Mike,

The following link may be the part Ross is referring to:

http://xs1100.com/partinfo.php?myid=...J7-23415-00-00


Been a few years since I did the steering on my "G" but if I'm not mistaken that part has a seal like rubber edge, more like a dust seal, and if yours isn't damaged it can be reused.

[XS11NEWROSS]

Some photos of the current mess, I went to the pub first last night










All balls oil seals last two pics damaged one is for bottom bearing

[XS11NEWROSS]

I'm doing all the bearings on the Bagger. I ordered new seals for my swingarm and wheels, but the Yamaha parts drawing doesn't show seals in the steering. Just checking...I don't need steering seals, right?

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/searc...ING/parts.html

Sounds like NEWROSS is saying that, but I'm not sure after reading this post.

Mike, the seals I am talking about are not present originally but supplied as part of an "All Balls" steering bearing KIT containing both bearings and these seals. I have pics of them in my last post. Don't know if we need them or not but seem like good idea if they fit in!