oil drain plug

[tomcos67]

Just now changing oil . Tighting oil drain plug one turn to many.Now what do I do. Won't go in or out.Head still on.???????

[jetmechmarty]

Back it out. Contact andreashweiss for a replacement pan and you'll need a gasket. While you're at it, pick up a torque wrench. Hurry up. XSSE is three weeks away.

[Eastcoaster]

pan

Tom

I think I have a pan if you need one quick

[bikerphil]

Try to get a flat head screwdriver tip behind the bolt head and pull outwards as you are removing the bolt. Once it's out, you may be able to find a suitable larger plug for stripped out threads at auto parts. May even be able to use some teflon tape depending how badly stripped the pan is.

[motoman]

Back it out. Contact andreashweiss for a replacement pan and you'll need a gasket. While you're at it, pick up a torque wrench. Hurry up. XSSE is three weeks away.

Actually no gasket is needed. Bothh surfaces ARE machined. Clean ALL oil residue from both surfaces. Put a thin film of HighTempGrey Permatex silicone on one or the other surface. Bolt pan back in place and wait several hours before adding correct and correct amount of oil. Do NOT use synthetic nor semi synthetic oil. Mine has been on this way now for 6plus yrs. with not so much as a weep nor wet spot anywhere. Still have the new pan gasket in its folder on shelf in man-cave.........where it can stay for now.

[BA80]

Actually no gasket is needed. Bothh surfaces ARE machined. Clean ALL oil residue from both surfaces. Put a thin film of HighTempGrey Permatex silicone on one or the other surface. Bolt pan back in place and wait several hours before adding correct and correct amount of oil. Do NOT use synthetic nor semi synthetic oil. Mine has been on this way now for 6plus yrs. with not so much as a weep nor wet spot anywhere. Still have the new pan gasket in its folder on shelf in man-cave.........where it can stay for now.

+1....Except you really don't need to wait. It can be used right away

[motoman]

+1....Except you really don't need to wait. It can be used right away

Very true Greg, but just was throwing in a bit of 'safe factor'.

[tomcos67]

Actually no gasket is needed. Bothh surfaces ARE machined. Clean ALL oil residue from both surfaces. Put a thin film of HighTempGrey Permatex silicone on one or the other surface. Bolt pan back in place and wait several hours before adding correct and correct amount of oil. Do NOT use synthetic nor semi synthetic oil. Mine has been on this way now for 6plus yrs. with not so much as a weep nor wet spot anywhere. Still have the new pan gasket in its folder on shelf in man-cave.........where it can stay for now.

Thank You!!! Will do...over.........

[TopCatGr58]

Hey Tom,

Mike posted this photo in another thread about a damaged pan he had!



This is a photo of a temporary type repair drain plug you can get at your local NAPA! IIRC, it's a 14mm diameter SELF TAPPING larger portion that can be used to retap threads to secure the newer bolt. THEN it has the smaller INNER bolt that can unscrew to allow draining of the oil, so you don't keep moving the large bolt and run the risk of messing up the newly cut threads. SO.....this can provide a temporary or permanent quick repair. Take your OLD bolt with you to match up to the new one, you want one a little bigger to be able to have room to cut threads into and allow a seal!

T.C.

[Eastcoaster]

Pan

i found a pan and plug I can give to Tom I have never changed one will Tom need to pull the exhaust or any other tricks to get him up and running?
Also it's off a 79 are all pans the same?

[jetmechmarty]

I think it's just 10 6mm socket head bolts that need to come out. A few of those bolts hold wiring clamps. It should be straight forward.

After all these years, these bolts and the case have some galvanic corrosion going on. The bolts will pop loose as that corrosion bond is broken. Clean up the bolts and put some anti seize compound on them going back in. Snug them up. Don't crank them down Hercules tight!

[Eastcoaster]

Oil Pan

Shipped Tom a spare I had. I hope this gets Tom on the road in speedy time

[MPittma100]

Oil pan thread repair

I experienced a slight drip from my oil pan drain plug and thought it was the washer. This is the second bike that I have had this problem with. Turns out the washer was not the problem with either bike. Both had stripped drain plug threads!

I replaced the pan on the first bike with a good used one from Adreas. It corrected the problem, but was a LOT of work. Being faced with the second failure recently on my daily rider, I thought "there must be a better way".

I first looked at Heli-Coil. Did not really like the idea of having to drill, then tap the hole. Not sure that you could line up a drill properly to do so. So, I looked elsewhere.

I went into my shop and found a spark plug hole repair kit made by Sav-A-Thread. Kit part number is 5334-14 (Google it). It has a tap, 3 thread inserts of varying lengths, and a mandrel to secure the insert in the hole after installing. The middle length insert appeared to be the best choice. No drill bit. No drilling required.

The tap itself is 2 taps in one. The smaller starting tap on the end pilots into the damaged threads and makes a perfectly straight entrance for the second part of the tap. I used grease to catch the debris. I went a step further and poured some mineral spirits in the oil fill hole. I let it drain and then used compressed air to insure that all thread shavings were out.

The hole was perfect. The insert required some sealer and screwed in flush by hand. I then used the mandrel (punch) provided to lock the insert in with a few light taps from a hammer. I used Ultra Grey sealant. Let it cure overnight. It looked like a professional repair. Maybe Yamaha should have done this originally?

There is one more item that has to be purchased to complete this repair. I made sure that is was available prior to starting the procedure. The part is a new drain plug. The reason being is that the old drain plug threads are 14mm-1.50. The new threads are 14mm-1.25 (same as a spark plug).

The new drain plug was in stock at my local Advance Auto Parts store for $3.99. It has a new washer, the correct threads, and even has the same size (19mm) head on it. Part number is 65256.

I did search for a similar kit with 14mm-1.50 thread, but did not locate one.

Try this next time you have this problem. Hope it helps.

Mike

[MPittma100]

Woops

Sorry for the double post.

[DiverRay]

Not any more, Mike.