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[jwhughes3]

I have a 3 day weekend coming up. Maybe I'll ride down there, drink YOUR beer and get the cops called to your garage at midnight.

I will get you so drunk you may have to stay four days

Welcome anytime Greg - Dylan and I wore ourselves out trying to manhandle that engine out both standing up and laying on its side to no avail.

John

[BA80]

You're not using the right words.

[dbeardslee]

I will get you so drunk you may have to stay four days

Welcome anytime Greg - Dylan and I wore ourselves out trying to manhandle that engine out both standing up and laying on its side to no avail.

John

Two words - moving straps. I've got a set I made out of a couple automotive snatch straps, and you can carry pianos around with those things. And I've also used them to remove motors from XS11's. You just need two loops of thick nylon strapping (about 3" wide so it doesn't cut into your shoulders). Hook them together underneath the motor by passing one strap through the other loop, tie them off for the appropriate length, put your head and one shoulder through the loop, push off the object you're trying to lift and lift with your legs. Or in this case push off the frame, and you will be able to lift the motor free of the mounts and maneuver it out.

This will give you an idea of how they work, but these guys don't have the loops connected underneath - diy moving straps

[trbig]

Welcome anytime Greg - Dylan and I wore ourselves out trying to manhandle that engine out both standing up and laying on its side to no avail.

John

Eat more Wheaties. Straddle the bike, bear hug it and pull it out. Or is that just my method?

Make sure the oil filter cup is off, sometimes it helps to remove the valve cover. Floor jack under the oil pan towards the front. Raise out of the mounts and turn clockwise, pull out right side.

Sounds so easy, don't it?

Tod, I take the real world very seriously. Seriously: isn't there a local VA hospital in Oklahoma with disabled vets that you can try to BS? Or maybe just some local cardiac ward if you can't get in the VA.

Hoping that makes sense to at least one of us...

[jwhughes3]

You're not using the right words.

Pretty please

With Sugar

John

(No homo) lol

[BA80]

Pretty please

With Sugar

John

(No homo) lol

I know you didn't learn those in the Navy.

[jwhughes3]

We can give the straps a try. I have removed the oil filter cup and valve cover both. Mostly it just seems to be getting caught on the frame by the motor mounts and the engine tilts fwd a bit to free the ujoint and then the front gets caught.

I know it seemed easy when I watched Tod bear hug the thing across the garage at Russ' place. And I have watched Greg do it too I think on Doc's bike when Dylan and I were up there.

Just figure I need to cut the frame off the engine that would be easy, but would be of no help when I go to pull the Navy bike's engine.

Tod I don't think eating more will help. Just need to hit the gym so I don't tire out so easily anymore. Plus getting back into my old riding jacket would be a plus.

John

[BA80]

I know it seemed easy when I watched Tod bear hug the thing across the garage at Russ' place. And I have watched Greg do it too I think on Doc's bike when Dylan and I were up there.

Nope, not me. I tried to lift one by myself once. .........................ONCE.

My old back said " Ha ha ha ha...not a chance in hell".

[jwhughes3]

I meant we helped.

John

[dbeardslee]

We can give the straps a try.

A couple things on the straps...

Feed them through between the frame and the motor, and loop them together underneath. Then pull the slack out and position the straps so they're going around the sides of the motor so you'll have some control over it. Then tie them off. For lifting a motor you probably want to tie them off about solar plexus level, but you might have to play with the length a little. Just make a knot with both straps together. You don't need a square not or anything like that. Then slide the knots down by pulling the straps through on one side so the knot doesn't wind up right on your shoulder.

It's kind of hard to explain the geometry in words, so I got my straps out and hooked them up the way you would to lift the motor, and took some pics. The black stuff you see on the straps is grease from when Steppenwolf and I pulled DGXSER's motor after he totaled Thunderstruck. We stripped that whole bike down to nothing in about three hours, and neither Steppenwolf nor myself are spring chickens. The trick part is pushing off what you're lifting - in this case the upper frame of the motorcycle. And it will keep you from hurting your back.

Anyway this shows how the straps get looped together, and the motor would be in the middle with the junction underneath in the center.



And this is how you tie them off.



I made mine out of two automotive snatch straps. Costs a few bucks, but they're real thick and don't bite into your shoulder too bad. I've had them for a lot of years, and I've moved a LOT of real heavy stuff with them. You wouldn't think a couple simple straps would make such a difference, but they do. A trick I learned from a furniture mover. Probably why they call them moving straps. Go figure.

[dbeardslee]

And one other thing - when we pulled the motor we sat it on furniture dolly that was positioned close to the bike. That wound up being genius 'cause after it was out we were able to wheel it around the garage real easy. JAT

[motoman]

Just reporting what I found. That's the original DL with over 100K on it, 50K with the FD mod.

The rear of the DL will most likely wear like that as it does move in and out with rear suspension travel and it may not be exactly in line with the FD itself which would cause a slight wobble, for lack of a better word, as it spins in the FD collar.

The most significant thing here in line with this thread is that there is no polishing of the splines on the u-joint end. If there had been any wobble on the contact points of the splines, even though as has been said here that the shaft is harder metal than the yoke, it would have certainly polished the splines.

Spot-on my friend.